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THE SUPER-LIGHTWEIGHT CARBON PLATINUM IN AEROSPACE PREPREG TECHNOLOGY IS DESIGNED FOR EXPERIENCED AND PERFORMANCE-ORIENTED RIDERS WITH ITS ULTRA-STIFF MONOCOQUE DESIGN. WORD HAS LONG SINCE GOT AROUND THAT EVEN PWA TEAM RIDERS OF OTHER RIG BRANDS BUY THE PLATINUM.
In order to meet the toughest challenges, three fully customised concepts are at the start: › Wave >< Freestyle (140 + 150) › Wave >< Freeride (160) › Slalom-Race (170 + 190) WAVE SERIES: The bending line of the short lengths with a smaller opening angle at the front and wider tail end combine to form the EVEN CURVE, which ensures a more even pull on the mast and backhand. This improves handling when riding the waves and lessens fatigue when performing freestyle moves. By popular request, the PLATINUM is now also available in a MEGA SLIM version as the thinnest carbon boom worldwide with only 24.0 mm tube diameter (140-180 and 150-200). NEW: In combination with the 2022 Duotone sails, the brand new VTS TAIL fitting offers for the first time a clear visual indication for the perfect outhaul tension (patent pending). HYBRID SERIES: The wave/freeride version with HYBRID.CURVE was developed specifically for sail sizes 4.5 to 7.8, which can unfold optimally – in the truest sense of the word. For the very best grip comfort and secure hold when performing duck gybes, the tail end is half coated with Pro-Grip (INSIDE 50% GRIPPED TAIL). The low weight, iFRONT 2.0 front end and the stiffness of the monocoque design make it the highest-quality wave/freeride boom currently available. Also this boom is equipped with the brand new VTS TAIL fitting. RACE SERIES: The large PLATINUM booms have tried-and-tested race/slalom bend curves. An additional highlight is the iTAIL RACE FITTING, whose Teflon POM plastic rollers minimise friction. Absolutely unique: The ropes can even be looped while an outhaul trimming system is in use (patented). - The PLATINUM 170-230 features a 28 mm grip diameter, which is ideal for small and medium slalom sails and all freerace sail sizes. Attention: the 170 length is mainly focussed on racing generating maximum stiffness despite the inside tail-end and the rather "small“ grip diameter. This can only be achieve through a certain pretension between the tail-end and the body. This pretension makes the PLATINUM 170 the stiffest boom of its kind on the market. Unfortunately though the pretension has a negative effect on the comfort while adjusting the boom length. The 160 length (freeride focus) however comes with the same body than the 170 but features a tail-end with a smaller opening angle. This results in a 20% lower stiffness but a much higher comfort when adjusting the length. - The brand-new PLATINUM 190-250 now features a 28.5 mm grip diameter plus an OVAL OUTSIDE TAIL for 40% increased stiffness. The OVAL OUTSIDE TAIL also ensures that maximum stiffness is obtained even when fully extended.
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KNOWLEDGE BASE BOOMS
DUOTONE CARBON BOOM TECHNOLOGY - THINK DIFFERENT
We know that there are 2 challenges every windsurfing boom has to face:
Fact #1: the longer the boom and the smaller the diameter the softer it becomes
Fact #2: the smaller the diameter (in the grip area) the higher the grip comfort and the lower the fatigue (= longer sessions on the water and/or more power for the race)
Our aim was to achieve a long race boom, combining maximum grip comfort (through the thinnest possible grip diameter) with maximum stiffness - usually two things which can’t be combined as they work against each other.
Utilising the industry's longest experience in engineering windsurfing booms after 3 years of relentless development we have come up with an innovative solution: SEGMENTED CROSS-SECTION TECHNOLOGY
Replacing the usual round cross section, the new PLATINUM SLS boom features 3 different cross sections each fulfilling individual tasks tailored to the specific section of the boom:
FRONT-END SECTION
The front-end section, especially right next to the front-end, is responsible for approx. 30-40% of the total boom stiffness. The forces operate in multiple directions due to the lateral pull from your hands and the downward forces from your bodyweight. Therefore here the PLATINUM SLS features a massive square cross section which effectively increases the overall stiffness - in both directions, laterally and downward.
TAIL-END SECTION
The tail section has similar influence on the overall boom stiffness as the front section, although the influence increases the further you extend the boom length. Unlike the front section where the forces act in multiple directions, 90% of the forces on the tail section occur laterally as the main force comes from the sail pulling sideways. With the forces only operating in one direction, the most effective geometry here is an asymmetrical oval cross section that is horizontally orientated.
GRIP SECTION
By drastically increasing the stiffness in the front- and tail sections, we were able to reduce the outer diameter in the grip section by 1.5mm. Whilst this might not sound like much, in your hands the difference in grip comfort and fatigue is like day and night. To further increase grip comfort and reduce fatigue we have added a “bumper” to the inside.
The result? Our revolutionary SEGMENTED CROSS-SECTION TECHNOLOGY creates an unmatched racing boom setting a new benchmark for stiffness AND grip comfort.
Being even stiffer and lighter than the previous version with a reduced diameter in the grip area, as of today there is no other boom out there with a similar diameter-stiffness-weight ration than the new PLATINUM SLS!
Carbon offers the highest stiffness of all composite fiber. This ensures an unsurpassed stiffness-to-weight ratio.
Unfortunately though carbon has the lowest abrasion resistance of any composite fiber. Nowadays all front-ends are rotational which constantly "grind down" the carbon underneath. Over time, this initially increases the play between the front-end and the carbon body, eventually leading to potential breakage. The weak spot of any carbon boom is therefore the area below the front-end.
Our engineers have found a unique solution to avoid this by incorporating a very sophisticated bearing design. With our TRIANGLE BEARING CONSTRUCTION the carbon structure remains protected from abrasion even after years of use.
A boom with a rotational front-end needs side „bumpers“ to avoid the front-end from moving sideways. Usually these side „bumpers“ get moulded together with the rest of the boom body in „one shot“. This is how every carbon boom is produced. The problem with this process is that the carbon fibers get „folded“ in a 90° angle which causes a potential weak/breakage-spot. Our experience from the past showed that the majority of breakages occurred at exactly this spot.
Since 2019 all PLATINUM booms are made in our unique 2 PHASE BODY PRODUCTION. Means the side „bumpers“ get moulded onto the rest of the body in a 2nd process AFTER the body is finished. Since that time we don’t see any breakages in that area anymore.
The downside of this process is that the outside of the bumper area doesn’t look perfectly smooth. But rest assured this is purely aesthetic.
Drilled holes destroy the carbon structure and are therefore less durable - at least in theory. However, our experience on the water has shown that there is no difference compared to moulded recesses. To generate a moulded rcecess the carbon fibers must be „folded“ at a 90° angle which is just as bad for the structure as a drilled hole (see above under 2 PHASE BODY CONSTRUCTION).
On the other hand drilled holes are faster and cheaper in production. This allows us to spend the money where it really makes a difference to the durability (e.g. see above under TRIANGLE BEARING CONSTRUCTION).
BOOM BASICS
NEW-SCHOOL/WAVE CURVE
On New School shaped booms the curve is concentrated in the first 25-30 cm while the rest of the boom is straight. This means that you don’t need to twist/bent your front hand even on smaller (wave) sails as it's still positioned within the straight part.
CLASSIC/RACE CURVE
Classic shaped booms have a curve ranging further back to approx. 45cm. On smaller (wave) sails this means that the front hand is twisted/bent resulting in increased fatigue or even hand-wrist pain.
The larger the sail though the more the draft (and with it your hands) moves back so that the front hand isn't twisted anymore.
Bigger sails also have a deeper profile. Classic shaped booms with their curve ranging further back make the boom become wider in the middle avoiding the sail touching the boom.
Therefore classic shaped booms are still the first choice for larger sized freeride/slalom sails (6.5 and up).
Carbon booms are 3 to 5 times more expensive than aluminium booms. The reasons for this drastic price difference are the massive difference in the raw material prices and the fact that a carbon boom is 100% custom/hand made.
Since carbon is a much stiffer raw material than aluminium carbon booms offer 4 essential advantages:
When a gust hits your sail you need to pull hard to avoid loosing control. A softer boom bends more the harder you pull. This sideway bend results in the boom to become shorter. When the boom gets shorter the sail becomes fuller/baggy = loss of control.
The longer the boom (180 and up) the more obvious the difference in stiffness becomes.
Carbon booms can be made much lighter (up to 20%) while still offering at least 20% higher stiffness.
With carbon you can go for thinner diameters (up to 4 mm) while still offering at least 20% higher stiffness. In general the thinner the tube diameter the more comfortable it becomes to hold on to. This becomes very obvious once you go back from a thin diameter to a thicker one.
Carbon does not bend. Therefore a carbon boom usually lasts 3-4 times as long as an aluminium boom because any overload (crash, catapult, ..) will eventually result in a bent boom.
Also due to the fact that carbon doesn't corrode a carbon boom requires much less care than an aluminium one. Check the condition of the ropes once in a while and worst case get the grip replaced and a carbon boom will last for years to come.
Usually the longer and/or the more extended the boom the softer it gets. Problem is that the bigger the sail (= longer boom) gets the more crucial the boom stiffness becomes for the sail performance and wind range (see above CARBON VS. ALUMINIUM).
Since you pull with your back-hand when accelerating or pumping or when a gust hits your sail the tail-end section is the most crucial part for the overall stiffness of your boom. All booms nowadays either come with an inside- or outside tail-end.
OUTSIDE TAIL-END
Invented by the DUOTONE team back in 2007. Here the tail-end tubes slide OVER the boom body.
The larger tail diameter/cross-section increases the overall stiffness of your boom by minimum 30%. Plus in contrary to inside tail-ends the boom stiffness isn't affected when you extend the boom length.
Nevertheless the outside tail-end has 2 limitations:
a. When changing the boom length you need to move the adjustment locking system alongside the tail-end tube. This makes it less comfortable and slower to operate.
b. With the usual 50 cm of adjustment range an outside tail-end requires a minimum boom length of 180 cm. Any shorter and your back-hand may end up being positioned on the (thick) tail-end tube.
INSIDE TAIL-END
This is the classic version to adjust your boom length since the beginning of booms becoming variable in length. Here the tail-end runs INside the boom body.
Advantages are:
> Works for any size/length of boom as the tail-end will never interfere with your back-hand.
> The adjustment locking system is fixed to the boom body. This way it's easier, faster and more comfortable to adjust the boom length.
The only disadvantage is the reduced stiffness which gets worse the further you extend your boom. Usually the tail-end angle is parallel to the boom body angle (in the back). This way you have the least friction between the 2 parts making the tail-end slide very easily inside the boom body. This makes it very comfortable to adjust the length, sometimes up to a point that you can hear a certain "click-clack" when you're heavily "wobbling" your boom.
The only way to increase the boom stiffness featuring an inside tail-end is to generate a certain "pre-tension" in the boom. To do so the angle of the tail-end gets increased so that it doesn't match with the boom body anymore. With this pre-tension you increase the boom stiffness but at the same time remarkably reduce the comfort and ease of use when adjusting the length (therefore only used on PLATINUM 170).
Under usual conditions yes. But for super heavy usage you need to differentiate between carbon- and aluminium booms.
The worst case scenario on a carbon boom is a breakage when massively overloaded. Carbon booms do not bend though. Therefore carbon booms can be used without any limitations even when fully extended.
Aluminium though can break and bend. Therefore a heavy rider and/or overloading (e.g. wipe-outs/catapults or landing super high jumps) might cause an alloy boom to bend when fully extended. As a guideline for really heavy (ab)use do not use the last 15-20 cm of the boom range.
TIPS & TRICKS
You should always try to avoid getting sun cream onto your EVA grip. Not only can sun cream contaminate especially the lighter EVA colors. But more so the grip gets very slippery thus you need to grip harder which is very exhausting. Most important though is once sun cream gets onto the EVA the grip becomes slippery forever.
There are 2 simple solutions to avoid getting sun cream onto your EVA grip:
After applying sun cream wait until it's fully soacked into your skin which takes at least 10-15 minutes. Since we all wanna get onto the water asap this isn't very practical though.
Free your hands from sun cream either with alcohol (quite unpractical) or by using sand to "wash" your hands.
Even for storage or transport please always make sure to close the length adjustment lock system. In the open position the snap part is fully stretched out and therefore might loose a bit of its snapping function after a while.
Over time even stainless steel and aluminium parts get affected by salt water.
Therefore after holidays in salt water please remove the tail-end and rinse it as well as the inside of the boom body with fresh water.
For winter storage make sure to remove the tail-end from the body.
Please make sure to regularly check the condition of the ropes (front- and tail-end). Over time the rope surface might get damaged through the clamping in the metal cleat. When you start seeing the white core it's time to replace the rope.
The EVA grip is very cozy on your hands but it doesn't like sharp objects. Therefore don't rig up on concrete but try to rig on a soft ground (e.g. sand or gras).
Little cuts in the EVA you need to "ignore".
Little parts peeling off can easily be repaired using super glue.
In case the grip needs to be replaced (cause it's halfway gone or cause you cannot stand it destroying the beauty of your boom:-) do not try to do this on your own. It's a very delicate and time-consuming procedure which you should leave to professionals.
Need any spare parts? Here you go
In general most people do not use enough tension here resulting in the boom to slowly slide down during heavy sailing. When designing the front-end lever we made sure that you cannot break the mast while snapping on the front-end.
We use a rather "cheap" Polyester rope here by purpose. Compared to Dyneema/Spectra rope Polyester has a certain elasticity. This tiny bit of stretch buffers peak loads (e.g. during massive crashes or landing high jumps) thus preventing overload and a possible breakage of the plastic parts.
The VTS TAIL fitting is not compatible with older tail-ends. Yes it requires the same tail-end diameter as the iTail Wave fitting (the iTail Race requires a different/larger diameter altogether). But the VTS TAIL fitting is attached to the tail-end by TWO screws (instead of one) - and these screws are in a different position. Therefore it is not compatible.
But since the dimensions of the tail-end have not changed you can buy a complete tail-end including the VTS TAIL fitting to use it with your older iTail Wave boom.
WE DO CARE
Sustainability is the most important and pressing challenge of todays mankind to secure a livable mother earth for future generations to come!
Over the last 50 years Windsurfing has developed into a super high tech sport. But let's face it despite what others might tell you with the exception of aluminium booms and extensions Windsurfing products are a "mixture of petrol-based plastic trash". And most times up to 100% of this plastic trash are non-recycled (means "freshly produced") plastics.
At least as of today there are no eco-friendly substitutes existing offering the minimum requirements necessary to design modern Windsurfing products. Or why do you think no one wants to sail with wooden booms, aluminium masts or stretchy sails made of woven fabrics anymore?
There is only one sustainable way out of this dilemma:
MAKING LONGER LASTING PRODUCTS (LONGEVITY = SUSTAINABILITY)
A high performance product that lasts longer and best case can even be put into additional use on the second hand market is the best and only way to conserve the resources of our earth.
Of course light components have a massive impact on the performance and handling of your rig. That's why light weight is always on our briefing list when designing and engineering new products. And DUOTONE products are among or in many cases are the lightest on the market.
But durability and longevity were and will ALWAYS be on top of our priority list. Our industry leading warranty extensions bear witness to this philosophy:
- 2 year unconditional warranty on almost every hardware product (masts, booms and extensions+bases).
- 5 year warranty on 80% of our sails.
On sails we cannot emphasize enough that especially reducing the thickness of the monofilm and the XPly laminate has a radical influence on the longevity/sustainability. Reducing the film thickness by 50% reduces the UV-stability by 70%. Just to shortterm impress magazine testers or customers some brands use up to 70% thinner laminates/films than we do. This is not our understanding of sustainability.
DOING MORE
However, since we are fully aware of the importance of sustainability, we cannot simply stop here.
>> Only we have stopped using any plastic for packaging our sails. This saves approx. 5 sqm of plastic film and foam per sail.
>> Only our aluminium products (booms and extensions+bases) are manufactured in a CO2 neutral production facility.
>> Only our aluminium products (booms and extensions+bases) are produced in Germany using 100% European raw materials in order to keep shipping distances (to our manufacture and then to our central warehouse) at a minimum.
>> Only our sail bags are made out of 100% recycled plastic.
>> Only we compensate all carbon emissions caused by our sails during manufacture and transport by supporting a hydropower carbon offset project in Sri Lanka, the country where our sails are produced.
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This project runs throughout the whole year. Every year on January 15th, the best ideas will be rewarded and might actually be implemented into future products.
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I have a question :can the system (ITAIL RACE FITTING) be transferred to Boom 140-200 MEGA SLIM or Boom 140-200 or 160-220 cmmy daughter competes in windsurfing competitions / she is 11 years old / and she needs to mount OUTHAUL RACE, she needs pulleys at the end boom
ReplyHi Krzysztof,Welcome to the thread.Unfortunately exchaging the tail fitting to a different style is not really possible. This is because the tail fittings have different diameters and different hole positions.
Replyhey team,in 2024 i decided for a whole new setup from duotone boom masts sails.i recieved my 2024 platinium boom the other day. please let me know is it commen that the part unbeneth the head is (non coated, non clear vanish or anything else) blanc carbon or a production failure? Never had such a blanc surface with other booms before.Thanks for your reply.
ReplyHi Stefan,Unfortunately I don‘t fully get what you mean. Can you post a photo so that I get a better idea?
ReplyHi team, a question about the VTS Tail...Is the VTS Tail neutral indicator pressure sensitive on the outhaul? Will it indicate 'neutral' accurately for pre-2022 Duotone/older North Sails?I only have one newer sail that has clew VTS rope guide, all my older sails are before clew VTS and wondering how I might be able to calibrate them.
ReplyHi Leo,Welcome to the thread. Just let me know the model year, type and size of your older sails and I can give you the VTS Tail specs.
ReplyHi, is there a date for when the 170-230 sls platinum boom going to become available?
ReplyHi Axel,The first shipment of the new Platinum SLS booms has just arrived. Website will be updated until newest week.
ReplyHi Raoul, that's fantastic. Can it be ordered next week from your website in Europe, and expect to have it by the end of the month?
ReplyHi Axel,As soon as the new booms are online you can of course order them. I can just promise you it was worth the wait cause these new booms are really a massive step up. I really doubt there is any comparable boom out there.
ReplyHi Axel,I have just realised that the 170 is already sold out - so so sorry. This is due to the fact that the pre-orders from our importers and dealers surpassed the quantities from the first shipment. The next shipment is scheduled to arrive mid August. Your name suggest that you come from Germany - right? Cause then you should check with Surfshop Keppler or Funsport. Those guys have received some 170 booms from the first delivery.
ReplyI have a quiver of 2023 Idol sails from 4.0-5.2 as well as 2022 Super Heros from 3.4-5.7. I would like to make use of the VTS outhaul system and am thinking of one boom to fit all.I currently use Severne enigma, but find the tail end of the 140 boom very narrow for the Duotone sails. Duotone sls looks like it has a much wider tail so I am hoping it would fit all my sails from 3.4 up to 5.7.Would you recommend the regular sls 140-190?Alternatively I thought perhaps the mega slim 140-180 (or aero 3.0) and just not use it for the 5.7 as this could exceed max length with outhaul 176+/-4Any recommendations gratefully received :)
ReplyHi Magnus,Actually it's still top secret but if you can just wait a little longer (until April) we will release a new version of the 140 length. This boom will feature a 60cm tail end and a complete new bend curve (same than the Silver Mega Slim - see here: https://www.duotonesports.c...We have developed this curve over the last 1,5 years so that it fits both a large and deep Super_Hero as well as a small and flat Idol. I can just tell you that much once you've sailed this new curve you can't go back :-)
ReplyPerfect, thanks for the tip! I will wait until april :)
ReplyHello Raoul, Is that the reason for the long wait on the booms? Eagerly waiting for a new 140 and was told "a few more months?". Exciting though.
ReplyHi,I have a question about the 190-250 platinum boom.Is the wide tail-end from the previous north/duotone version also useable with the new 250 platinum boom?Best regards,Joeri
ReplyHi Joeri,Sorry your question has slipped through.Actually since we have changed the Platinum 190 boom into an oval cross section in the back the "old"/round tail ends do not fit anymore.
ReplyHi Raoul,What is the part number for the x-wide 230-260 tailend from the new oval 190 boom?Has the adjustable outhaul set remained the same for the round/oval boom?
ReplyWhat means heavy rider?
ReplyHi Richi,Welcome to the thread.As mentioned in the knowledge base on carbon booms you can use the full adjustment range. On an aluminum boom though we recommend not using the full range if you are heavy rider and/or heavy usage (e.g. high jumps or fully overpowered race-oriented sailing). A heavy rider we would call guys over 80kg.
ReplyHi crew, is the new VTS Tail Fitting compatible with an EPX.Carbon 160-220 tail end?
ReplyHi Leo,Thanks for double-checking. The EPX boom is a „standard“ OEM boom featuring a different diameter tail-end than the Platinum boom. Plus the rollers are integrated in the tail. Therefore unfortunately the VTS Tail won’t fit.
ReplyHello, im thinking of buying a platinum boom for my freestyle sails, 4.4 4.8 and 5.1. Shall i buy the 140-180 slim or the 150-200 slim?
ReplyHey fedonThe idol ltd 5.2 has a max boom length of 162, that’s why I would recommend you the 140-180.The 150 feels a bit stiff on the 4.4, that’s why the 140 should be the right choice.ThanksMarco
ReplyHello the boom is amazing mega slim 140-180 but I found that the small rubber parts on the tail end missing after session. It is posible to order ? And glue it back cannot find them on spare parts catalogue.
ReplyHi MarcinHappy to hear that you're stoked with your Platinum Mega Slim boom. Sorry to hear that the tail protector has ripped off. Unfortunately we don't offer this item as a spare part. Reason is that it's nearly impossible to properly connect it to the tail-end. In production process this done using Epoxy.
ReplyHello Duotone Team,i have bought the Platinum Series SLS 140 megaslim "new", and i used this weekend for the first time. It's fantastic, but, as the previous model (the blue/white one), the Front-end slide down even if it's closed to the mast very tight (probably too much) about 10/15 cm lower than the starting closing point during use. I do not make any high jumps, just go and back andsurfing waves (no big wipe-out).I use with Goya mast&sails and i'm 79kg; i really like your product, really, but i hoped that with the new iFRONT 2.0 this issue was definitely solved!Other windsurfers i've talked to who use it with other brand masts have the same issue..How can i solve the issue?Moreover, after only 2 days of use, the tail rope is almost broken; back on the beach i was really surprised to be able to come back because the rope held for 0,5mm only. by a hair!If i can not use the Dyneema, which one i have to buy?Can you please tell me the strength kg characteristic for the 3.4mm rope required?Thank You in advance for your replay.CiaoAle Venice
ReplyHey ale VeniceThanks for your feedback and happy that you like the platinum boom.Try to put more tension on the boom head with the rope, we tested the boom head with a proper rope tension and we didn’t had any issue.The shop where you bought the boom should exchange the tail rope or you either can order one in our sparepart shop.https://www.duotonesports.c...Let me know if you have any further questions.ThanksMarco
ReplyHi Ale Venice,Here is the direct link to the VTS Tail rope: https://www.duotonesports.c...
ReplyHello Duotone Team, i have bought the Platinum Series SLS 140 megaslim "new" and i used this weekend for the first time. As the previous model (the blue/white one) the Front-end slide down even if it's closed very tight (probably too much) about 10/15 cm lower than the starting closing point during use. I do not make any high jumps, just go and back and surfing waves (no big wipe-out).I use with Goya mast&sails and i'm 79kg; i really like your product, really, but i hoped that with the new iFRONT 2.0 this issue was definitely solved! Other windsurfers use it with other mast brand and the problem is the same.. it slide down.How can i solve the issue?Moreover, after 2 day of use, the tail rope is almost broken; back on the beach i was really surprised to be able to come back because the rope held only for 0,5mm.If i can not use the Dyneema, which one i have to buy?Can you please tell me the strength kg characteristic for the 3.4mm rope required?Thank You in advance for your replay.CiaoAlessandro
ReplyIs the diameter of the Platinum 140 really the same as the Silver, I wonder?I love your booms hardware. But I one real issue the boom-mast clamp. This I break already 2 times. In my opinion it is too fragil. some other little issues:Also the ropes for the tail of the boom and the extension are to soft and wear down to quickly. The do not last more than some month.
ReplyHi Jörg,Happy to hear that you like our hardware products - at least in general :-) We offer two different versions of the 140 boom, one with the „traditional“ 27.5mm diameter and one with a 24.0 „new school“ diameter. So it’s all your choice. Following to your small issues:1. We did a small running production change on the clam part a while ago beefing it up a little. Since that time breakages have gone down noticeably. But please note never to use a Dyneema rope here as its non-stretch behaviour puts too much load onto the front-end. 2. Quite the opposite counts for the Kurhaus rope. Here changing to a Dyneema rope will give you a nearly indestructible construction. That‘s also the reason why the Power.XT (where you have the extra wear and tear due the ratchet system) comes factory equipped with a Dyneema rope.Thanks again for your constructive approach.
ReplyI am using this boom since 5 years, today it is broken on a very standard weather consition. That would be normal ? What should I buy next in order not to face the same in the future. I am using sometimes warp sometimes s-type. Thanks for your comments and advise…https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
ReplyHi Pamir,Sorry to hear about your issue with your old boom.Straight forward if being honest I think no brand can promise you that their boom would never break. This also counts for our booms. Yes we offer an 2 Year Unconditional Warranty for the Platinum SLS booms which should give you „peace of mind“ for the first 2 years. But still I would not claim that our booms last „forever“. That’s simply not possible with the tremendous loads especially during slalom racing. Please also note that breakages very often occur during „very standard weather conditions“. In many cases the equipment might have gotten „pre-damaged“ by a heavy impact during another session before. And then a rather small impact might be enough for the product to finally snap.Please let me know in case you need any further assistance.
ReplyHi Raoul , what rope with the black markings do you use for the platinum boom ?ThxFilip
ReplyHi Filip,We have not added this items to our spare part shop yet. Hope to get this done within the next 2 weeks.But you can still order the item through your shop.Here are the details:Item name: DTW-Boom Spare VTS Tail Rope 3.4mm 2.0 (SS22-onw)Item number: 14230-8035
ReplyHello! Are the VTS and iTail boom ends interchangeable? Meaning, can I swap out the VTS tail end on a smaller boom, and replace it with the iTail, so that an adjustable outhaul system can be set up? This is for using the smaller foil sails under 5m. Thanks!
ReplyHi Haw,I think you mean to exchange the VTS tail fitting wit the iTail Race fitting - right?If so unfortunately the answer is no since both fittings come with a different diameter and different hole positions.
ReplyHi,Would it be possible to get the color code of the purple colored back end of the 170-230 boom?I have some scratches that I would like to touch up.Best regards,Nick
ReplyHi Raoul. My Ifront 2.0 rope is starting to wear and I'm keen to replace it. Keen to understand where/ how I can buy the replacement rope?I can only find find the rope sold as part of a bigger, much more expensive set. Thanks for letting me know.
ReplyHi Pieter-Paul,Thanks for reaching out.Since we are using a very generic Polyester rope (for the reasons mentioned above under TIPS&TRICKS - EXCHANGE THE "CHEAP" IFRONT 2.0 ROPE) which you can buy at any shop we do not offer the "original" rope as spare part. As a special tip I would look out for a braided-through Polyester rope - means a rope WITHOUT core and mantle. Experience taught us that these braided-through ropes last longer while core and mantle tend to rub against each other which leads to a faster wear and tear.
ReplyHello,I own a 190-250 platinum boom. It must be one of the first from the Duotone brand. Now I recently purchased the extra wide tailend that fits the body. With the wide tailend installed it is impossible to set the boom at a length that the body and tailend are at rest for storage. Is it ok to store the boom under tension?Best regards,Joeri
ReplyHi iv had one of these booms for about six months and use it about 12 times not very happy the screws which hold the back cleat in have totally rusted looks shocking. I presume this is covered under warranty
ReplyHi Stef,Welcome to the thread.Thanks for bringing up this issue. We prefer to use external tail fittings which offer a couple of advantages (see above under TECH FEATURES - EXTERNAL TAIL FITTINGS).Obviously these fittings needs to be screwed onto the carbon tail-end. We are using stainless steel screws+nuts for that. But even then unfortunately it’s impossible to completely avoid any kind of surface corrosion. As one example this can be caused by tiny metal partials getting onto the screw or nut during the mounting process. When Carbon and metal get in contact a so-called galvanic element happens. In combination with (salt) water this gets even „accelerated“. The good thing though since it’s „only“ happening at the surface it’s a pure aesthetic issue without any influence on the durability. But if you still feel uncomfortable you can of course exchange the screw and/or nut.
Replyhttps://uploads.disquscdn.c... https://uploads.disquscdn.c... Hi , I have 150-200 platinum boom probably 4-5 years old and on my last session plastic on tail broke. Can I replace it and where I can find that part.
ReplyHi Ivan,Here is the spare part you are looking for:https://shop.duotonesports....
ReplyHello,I have a 160 platinum boom that is missing some parts of the grip where the harness lines meet.Is there a manual or video available that shows how to replace the grip?I think it is a 2019 boom, it has the white/blue grip. Can I assume that also the grip of the newly colored booms fit?Kind regards,Joeri
ReplyHi Joeri,Small cuts or peel offs can be repaired very quickly using super glue. We do not recommend to do a DIY replacement of the whole grip though - please see above under TIPS&TRICKS - „BEAUTY CARE“ - 4.And yes the color grips still fit with the older booms.
ReplyHi Guest,Welcome to the thread.Thanks for bringing this interesting point up.When sailing you usually do not grap around the tube with your whole hand. Yes you have that impression holding on to a rather thick tube. In reality mainly just the fingers and the upper hand palm wrap around the tube (thus is where you get the callus spots after a while).Believe me once getting used to a smaller diameter there is no way back. Just like the opposite to a TV - once you had a bigger TV there is no way back either :-) And this comes from a quite tall and heavy guy with very long hands like myself.
ReplyHi,Is the iFront compatible with other brand booms? Was size does the front end tubing need to be?Thanks
ReplyHi Sam,It’s not just about the (front) tube diameter but also the distance side to side (defined by the bumpers left and right of the front-end.So for instance our front-end make has the same tube diameter than the NP but features a different distance side to side thus is not compatible. That‘s why I doubt that it is compatible with any other brand.
ReplyHi Again RaoulWondering if you can help again please.I need to replace the I tail cleat from my wave boom. Simple enough with just one bolt and nut to undo. However I’ve been trying to find a socket thin enough to put over the nut and failed as the wall thickness of the socket must be almost paper thin to be able to go over the nut and get into the plastic resets. Sadly the nut is in a round recess and not one that would hold it securely . Can you confirm what the factory use to tighten the nut please so I can replace a broken ITAIL on my platinum boom please or even if can purchase in the duotone shop?ThanksNick
ReplyHi Nick,Welcome to this thread as well :-) And thanks for bringing this up cause replacing the iTail Wave fitting isn’t a no-brainer by any means.There are 2 option here:1. our factory uses custom milled down sockets which are then thin enough to fit In-between the nut and the plastic. Not very practical as a diy solution though. 2. get yourself 2 small/thin screw drivers and fix the nut this way. This will require the help of a second person but this way you get the job done.Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
ReplyHi RaoulThanks for your confirmation of my thoughts. I’ll go the wedging screw driver solution and see how I get on. First though I will have to drill out the rusted nut/bolt connection then the new one will be ok with the wedging solution.Have a good one
ReplyHi. Could I use Mega Slim 140-180 with Super Hero 5.7 (176 boom)?Thanks
ReplyHi Davide,Like I had replied to you in the Super_Star SLS thread we always show the MAX rigging dimensions in our sail specs. We simply want to avoid that someone ends up with a too short boom and/or mast extension.So yes you can use the Mega.Slim 140-180 boom on the Super_Hero 5.7. For more details please see under BOOM BASICS - CAN I REALLY USE THE COMPLETE LENGTH RANGE OF THE BOOM? (further up on this page).
ReplyHi there,> Want to use an outhaulsystem on my New boom.> Does the Ital racefitting fit on the 160-220 SLS Platinum boom 2022?> Regards, Peter
ReplyHi Peter,Thanks for reaching out and bringing this up. The iTail Wave features a different (smaller) diameter than the iTail Race plus the screws (connecting the fitting to the tail) are at a different location (which the extra rollers of the iTail Race design require). Therefore unfortunately both fittings are not interchangeable.So when coming up with a new length we always need to decide which fitting to use. And since the 160-220 length is a „common wave-freemove“ size we have decided to go for the iTail Wave here.
ReplyHi Raoul,I have recently used my 2021 mega slim 150-200 boom with my 2022 E Pace 6.6. The mega slim 150-200 wobbled a little bit at the tail section. Should I better use a platinum SLS 160-220 boom with it? Thanks a lot in advance,
ReplyHi Selcuk,The E_Pace features a boom length of 194cm which means it’s pretty close to the max setting. Plus the E_Pace is a performance-oriented nocam sail where you sail fully sheeted in. Therefore I would not recon such a small diameter for such a big sail size (in relation to the boom length). Instead I would suggest going either for the 150-200 with the 27.5mm diameter or even better for the 160-220 boom.
ReplyHeyo, got a used but still very new platinum sls megaslim 150-200 from 2022. Is it normal with the inside gripped tail-end that the tail has quite a lot of play in the boom body? Even making a clacking sound when shaking the boom without a sail?
ReplyHi Philip,Thanks for brining this up.We all know that the mega slim diameter makes a massive difference to the gripping comfort on a wave boom. And the gripped tail-end is just so nice to hold on to during all ducking moves. The downside though is that the smaller the diameter gets the more "sensitive" the boom becomes to the tolerances between the tubes - which you need to be able to adjust the length. In other words the tolerances between the tubes are exactly the same as on the "regular" 140 boom with 28mm diameter. But be assured this doesn't have an influence on the durability. At least our team riders have not experienced any increased breakages compared to the regular 140 boom.
ReplyHi Raoul, thanks for the quick reply. Does the 140-180 and the 150-200 have the same tail. In the spare parts section for the 2022 platinum sls there is no difference between the two when you want to order a replacement tail...
ReplyHi Philip,The tail-end of both Mega Slom booms has the same diameter. The only difference is the length as the 140 comes with a 40cm adjustment only whereas the 150 features a 50cm adjustment. To make it easier for our logistics we have decided to just offer the 50cm tail-end as a spare part.
Replyhello duotone/ Raoul.I have now sailed 35 sessions with the platinum 160-220 i.c.w the F-pace cam.now i have a question about the VTS outhaul.When I dry-rig the sail, I (instinctively) put a lot of outhaul, because as soon as the sail comes into the water, the outhaul tension is completely gone.then I adjust the outhaul again according to the VTS.but after 30 minutes of sailing the sail is completely dry again, which also increases the outhaul tension in my opinion.how do I find a balance here?Thank you in advance.
ReplyHi Moritz,Thanks for bringing this up.To answer your question the (theoretical) stretch difference between a dry and a wet sail and (outhaul + downhaul) rope is negligible.
ReplyHi Duotone Team,the Platinum boom is very good and stiff, but the I-front always slides down. One time I snapped it too hard and even broke a mast. What can I do? I think the rubber is too hard.Thanks for advice, Werner
ReplyHi Werner,Again sorry for the very delayed response but apparently I don’t receive notifications from comments on this product thread anymore. I‘ll need to check with our service provider on that.As for the sliding down could you please proved me with some more details:- Are you using the boom on a RDM or SDM mast?- Which brand mast is it?- Which sail are you using?- What’s your weight?This way I have a better idea what’s the issue and how to solve it.
ReplyDear Raoul,I use SDM 100%, Point 7 mast and sail AC1. My weigt is 83 kg. Once I gave to much tension to the bom lever in order to avoid the sliding down and the mast broke.Thanks again for help,Werner
ReplyHi Werner,Thanks for bringing this up cause as expected we are talking about slalom fin racing equipment here. Slalom fin racing puts by far the most load onto the boom not just sideways but also downwards. This is especially apparent with the mega stiff carbon booms nowadays. Means there is zero „give“ in the tubes to absorb some of the forces but they get fully „transferred“ onto the front-end.We are having this discussion among our race team guys since quite some time. Depending on the style of sailing some have more of an issue with the boom slightly moving down and some less (also depending on the conditions mega choppy vs. smooth waters). Over the years we have tried all kind of things but unfortunately without a breakthrough. We have also tried all kind of competitor booms (we could get our hands on) and had to learn that they all „share“ the same issue, some a tiny bit less some a bit more. We have an idea which looks promising but still need to verify this and see how we can get it into serial production as (most important) it needs to be retrofit-able. So how to solve this for the moment?- On our masts (with Polyamide coating) some of our team riders sand the surface which seams to solve the issue. But I would definitely not recommend doing so on a mast without Polyamide coating.- On masts without Polyamide coating you could ask a board repair shop to add a 20cm long glass layer and use peelply which leads to a „rough“ the surface. - If you are hesitant against „modifying“ your mast (fully understandable) you can use a bit of natural rubber material (from a bike tire) and put it around the back hinge part of the front-end. Unfortunately this will make it nearly impossible to change the boom height when the sail is under tension. That’s why it’s not an option for the production boom.That all sounds a bit „handyman’s style“ but for the moment these are the best options. And as usual on our product threads we prefer to give you the best possible and honest assistance rather than just „marketing blabla“. And to put this into perspective I weigh 90kg and would call myself an advanced freeracer (Warp or S_Pace). And I have zero issues with the boom sliding down. Means we hear about this issue „only“ from „real“ racers. And this is from over 10 years of experience with the iFront 2.0 - which is unchanged since day one by the way. And last thing of course the iFront 1 had the same issue - in the hands of „real“ racers.
ReplyDear Raoul,thank you for this detailed and honest statement. I also consider to replace the boom head (maybe by Maui Sails). Which diameter has the tube around the front bow?
ReplyHi Werner,The Maui Sails is a very good front-end indeed. It was one of the front-ends we had a very close look at when developing the iFront 2.0. But unfortunately our experience is that this front-end slides down even more/faster than ours.But nevertheless this front-end would fit with our boom front-tube diameter.
ReplyHello! My quiver; 4.5 & 5.3 supersession and 6.2 & 7.8 E-pace. Big steps, I know, but it works :) I am looking for a new carbon bom and it would be nice to use one boom for thewhole range. What do you say about the 160-220 Hybrid Platinum SLS with vts? Today I have a Chinook alu 150-200 and a Maui sails carbon 170-230. 5.3-7.8 is frequently in use. 4.5 only one or maybe a couple of times a year.
ReplyHi Gustav,Sorry for the very delayed response but apparently I don’t receive notifications from comments on this product thread anymore. I‘ll need to check with our service provider on that.Following to your question:Your S_Pace 7.8 has a max. boom length of 219/220cm (depending on the model year). So rigged for high end stability it will just fit into the 160-220 boom. As stated above under BOOM BASICS on carbon booms you can use the full range of the extension. But please be aware that (even carbon) booms become softer when fully extended.Also the curve/width of the 160-220 boom is a bit narrow for the 7.8 - means a bigger portion of the boom will be touching the sail especially when rigged very (power)full.But as you stated you are willing to accept a compromise for the sake of just having one boom (to carry around).On the other side of your range the Super Session 4.5 has a max. boom length of 157cm (maximum outhaul tension when you use the boom at the upper end of the cutout). Means if rigged powerful and put in the mid to lower cutout position you might end up at around 152cm. That is indeed too short for a 160 boom as with 8cm of a „gap“ the clew would just „flap around“.As much as I would love to sell you into our boom to replace your Chinook and Maui Sails booms I would say that’s bit too much of a compromise.But of course in the end it’s your decision how much of a compromise you wanna make.
ReplyNo problem Raoul! But I dont use S_Pace, my 7.8 is a E_pace with 212 max. boom length. Will it change the possibility of the 160-220 on 7.8?I'm aware of the problem with 4.5!
ReplyHi Gustav,Ups sorry my mistake. Of course with the E_Pace 7.8 the 160-220 boom would work quite nicely. And since the E_Pace has a flatter profile than the S_Pace the boom width should also fit quite well.
ReplyHey Raoul..!!! I wanted to ask you, my weight is less than 70kg and my bigger sail is an E-pace 6.6 so please let me know what do you suggest for a boom an EPX 150-210 or a Platinum mega slim 150-200, actually I'm in love with mega slim..!!!
ReplyHi Nicholas,Well that really depends on how much you are able and/or willing to spend.The EPX.Carbon is a very good and reliable OEM boom made by Aeron. Approx. 80% of all brands on the market offer the same boom. The only difference is the brand label, the color of the plastic parts and the artwork of the grip. So technically there is zero difference between these booms.The Platinum SLS boom on the other hand offers some unique features and functions (for details please see above on this page). They are unique to Duotone cause we have developed and patented them. But development and moulds cost money which makes this boom quite a bit more expensive. But the good thing is that both booms are featuring nearly the same mega slim diameter :-)
ReplySo do you think that the mega slim 150 - 200 could be fits good enough with my bigger sail E-pace 6.6..???
ReplyHi Nicholas,Ok now I got your question.All 140/150 (on the market) feature a wave bend curve which unfortunately is too narrow for a sail like your E_Pace 6.6. A too narrow boom results in the sail touching the boom over a larger area. Now you can imagine this is like "cutting the sail profile in half" in the boom area which is super bad for the sails performance.Sorry for the negative reply but at Duotone we always prefer an honest assistance over a fast sales success (by just telling you it's gonna be wonderful).
ReplyHi,Would the 150-200 platinum boom be ok for 6.2 super star or will it be to close the Limit.Many Thanks Giles
ReplyHi Giles,Welcome to the thread. We have covered this question above under BOOM BASICS - CAN I REALLY USE THE COMPLETE LENGTH RANGE OF THE BOOM?Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
ReplyHi,I just checked the duotone website today. And I see that duotone has a new AERO 3.0 boom. But in the specification of the boom I see that the diameter is 27.5mm. Does the new duotone AERO 3.0 not come in mega slim 24mm? Is the SLS Platinum 140-180 only in mega slim 24 mm? Cause if I’m correct I think the SLS Platinum mega slim boom weighs 1.90 and the new Duotone AERO 3.0 weighs 1.95. I thought the AERO 3.0 should weigh less then the SLS PLATINUM MEGA SLIM? Or is the information on the Duotone website incorrect? I’m a bit confused 🤔Hope to hear from you soon.With kind regards,Royzinho
ReplyHi Royzinho,Thank you so much for reaching out.Indeed I had forgotten to update the tech specs - I have just updated them now. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the hint.
ReplyHi I have a question about the new mega slim duotone booms. I see that they come in 2 sizes 140-180 and 150-200. Which Boom do you recommend when you have an Duotone Idol 4.4 & 4.8 the megaslim platinum 140-180 or the megaslim 150-200 boom? I'm gonna buy the mega slim boom but can't find anywhere which size would be recommended for the Idol 4.4 & 4.8? And when can we expect the new Platinum Aero Boom? Anytime soon? I can't wait to buy it.Thanks
ReplyHi Royzinho,Thanks for reaching out.1. Platinum 140 vs. 150 boom:For your Idol 4.4 and 4.8 you can use both booms. I would depend the decision on whether you tend to add a bigger or smaller sail size to your quiver in the future. If you might add something bigger than your 4.8 you might go for the 150 length. If the 4.8 will remain your biggest size you'll be perfectly fine with the 140 length, simply because it's a tiny bit lighter.2. Platinum Aero 140 Megaslim:First (very limited) quantities will be available when we launch the new hardware range in November.
ReplyHi Raoul Joa,Thank you for your quick response. I'm on vacation on the beautiful island of Bonaire. And Two days ago I got to Try my new Duotone Idol 2022 4.8 with my mast 400 Aero 3.0 and my duotone platinum mega slim 140-180 Boom and it is just the best sail I have ever had. I am super satisfied with my new equipment (it is super light). Duotone in my opinion has the best windsurf sails. The freestyle moves are much easier for me with my new gear. Keep up the good work!
ReplyQuick question about the mega slim duotone booms. Which Boom do you recommend if you have an Idol 4.4 & 4.8 the megaslim platinum 140-180 or the 150-200 boom? And when can we expect the new Platinum Aero Boom? Anytime soon? I can't wait to buy it.
ReplyHi,I was wondering if I can put an itail race fitting on a silver boom that has an itail wave fitting. Are the fittings interchangeable across different booms?Thank
ReplyI am very fond of my 170 Platinum for my slalom sails. I consider buying a 150 platinum for my Freestyle / Wave sails. I have two questions;1) Is the 150 Platinum stiffer than the 150 Mega Slim, considering its diameter?2) Can both (the 150 platinum and 150 mega slim) be used on SDM masts as well? (I already have the SDM and RDM adapter with my 170 platinum).Thanx!
ReplyHi Kasper,Welcome to the thread. Following to your questions:1. Yes the regular Platinum 150 boom is stiffer than the 150 Mega Slim. A diameter difference between 27.5 and 24.5 mm you simply can't completely compensate through wall thickness. But for Wave-Freestyle sails the Mega Slim is more than stiff enough. At least it's so stiff that none of our international wave riders are using the regular 150 boom anymore - the difference in gripping comfort is so huge that once you've tried the Mega Slime you cannot go back. 2. Due to the difference in stiffness I wouldn't recommend the Mega Slim for SDM Freeride/race sails. But honestly also the regular 150 boom is not really suited for such sails as it's too narrow. If you wanna have a boom for Wave and Freeride usage you should have a closer look at the 160 length which is wide enough for Freeride sails as well.
ReplyThanks Raoul, I plan to use it with the NS ICE and NS Duke. I use these sails with NS Gold SDM masts. If I understand it correctly, the Mega Slim fits these masts with a SDM adapter.
ReplyHi Kasper,Even with the included RDM friction pad you can "force" the front-end onto a SDM mast. But obviously it's much more comfortable in combination with the SDM friction pad. But please note the Mega Slim comes with the RDM friction pad only means you'll need to purchase the SDM friction pad separately.
ReplyHi, just bought the 160 cm Platinum boom as the 170 was too long a wait ;-). Since I'm a lightweigt and mostly foiling, I'll be using the boom for sailsizes between 4.5 and 7.8 only. On my larger sails, I can imagine that the tail-end of the 170 is a better match, especially if I'm planning to use the outhaul kit. My question is, is it possible to use the 170 tail-end on the 160 boom? Thx
ReplyHi Joes,Thanks for bringing this up.Since the 160 and the 170 booms share the same body (apart from a 10cm difference in length) the tail-ends are also interchangeable. But be aware that with the 170 tail-end changing the length becomes MUCH harder as the tail-end has a much bigger opening angle (which is the secret for the MUCH increased stiffness of the 170 boom). Details you can find above under DETAILS.
ReplyHi Raoul, thx for replying. What would be an alternative way to use the outhaul kit on the Platinum 160 boom with ITail wave end? I read it is nog possible to retrofit just the iTail Race (BOOM SPARES Art #: 14900-8029) part. Happy to hear. Cheers
ReplyHi, for 160 cm 13 years girl who is doing slalom, we would like to buy a 170 cm Platinium boom. At the same time we have seen a promotion for Aero 2.0 190 boom which comes to the same price level. As 170 has oval shape at the front and has a smaller diameter it looks more suitable for her. Aero has 30 mm diameter and round shape at the front. Both has an acceptable weight. All 2021. Do you think she will be comfortable also with Aero 2.0?. ThanksAnother question is; will "Outhaul Kit Race" fit both booms because of boom diameter.
ReplyHi Gönen,Thanks for reaching out.Let me guess your daughter is racing in Alacati. It’s a really really unique spot with a huge (male AND female) racing scene…Concerning the Platinum boom I would definitely go for the 170 length. Cause from our experience (especially) for girls the most important factor is to have the smallest possible diameter. That’s why all our international female riders try to use the 170 length on all possible sail sizes. Yes you might be able to get a good deal on the Aero 190 (cause we are about to update this boom to a smaller diameter). But it’s a huge difference between 30 and 28mm grip diameter. 2 things to consider though:1. The 170 boom is round and not oval (same as the „old“ 190). Only the new 190 is „ovalized“ on the inside (in the gripping area) - details you can find above on this page.2. Despite the small diameter the 170 is maybe the stiffest boom of its kind (second most important factor for female racers and most important factor for male racers). To achieve this enormous stiffness (despite featuring an inside tail-end) there is a certain pretension in the boom. But this pretension makes it quite a bit harder to change the boom length (details you can also find above). Please let me know in case you need any further assistance.
ReplyHi Raoul,Good guess for Alacati and thank you for detailed information which helps a lot. We will try to buy 170 if any exists at stock. We are speaking with Jimmy.Do you think it worths to wait for 2022 model? Will there be any improvements for 170? Thanks
ReplyHi Gönen,Hehe got you :-) We have a big optical update for 2022. But technically the 170 boom will remain unchanged.
ReplyHi Raoul, I’ve got a Platinum 170-230 boom. Would this boom work with a Warp 7.7. 2019 or 2020? Thanks.
ReplyHi Pieter-Paul,Both Warp 7.7 (2019 and 2020) feature a max boom length of 221. Therefore the Platinum 170-230 boom can be used for both sails. Actually all our female team riders prefer the 170 boom on the 7.7 because of the smaller diameter. All our male World Cup riders though prefer the 190 length due to its higher stiffness.
ReplyHi Raoul,I am considering buying a Platinum boom with iTAIL RACE FITTING. I am wondering if it can be used with a sail including an outhaul double pulley, as the iTAIL does not include a center pulley?Thanks!Janne
ReplyHey Raoul,I would like to buy a slim 140 Platinum version but I am curious if you know already anything about longevity when compared to the normal version.Is the slim version more fragile than the normal version? Which one would last longer in mostly wave sailing conditions?Thanks
ReplyHi Vince,Well our international team riders (Victor, Marc, Adam and Arthur) might be the ones who have put the most hours onto the Mega Slim booms as no one is using the regular version anymore. Since the 2 years they have been using the Mega Slim all of them together have broken 2 booms so far - which is a very strong sign considering how many hours and how much (ab)use they put onto the stuff. The second „source“ of longevity is our Duotone Pro Center on Tenerife which uses Platinum booms only. Also here no major upsets in the 2 years since the introduction. Apart from replacing the boom grip which is usual in center usage.So all in all it’s looking quite promising I would say.
ReplyHi Raoul,perfect, thanks for the insights!Vince
ReplyHey Guys,Looking for a new boom a size or two up from my 150 wave, considering 160 or 170 Platinum but not clear on the body profile.Your website states body is THE SAME with different tail pc yet the image/sketch clearly shows the 160 being a hybrid bend with the 170 being a traditional race bend, need confirmation pleaseThanks
ReplyHi Bruce,Thanks for double-checking.I can confirm the boom bodies of the 160 and 170 lengths are identical. The only difference is the length of the body and the design of the tail-end (different opening angles plus different tail-fittings).Attention: as mentioned in the Details text above the 170 is very difficult to adjust (due to the bigger tail opening angle) but therefore is approx. 20% stiffer than the 160.
ReplyThanks Raoulfor a 6.2 no cam and 7.0 no cam FREERACE or 3 cam race is it worth the occasional difficulty to adjust in order to have the stiffer boom?Thanks again
ReplyHi RaulIs there an SDM to RDM adapter for the platinum 190-250 race boom please?Can I use the same adapter that came with the platinum hybrid?
ReplyHi Roddy,All our booms come equipped with the same iFront 2.0. Therefore the RDM adapter which came with your Platinum 160-200 also fits the 190 length.
ReplyHello Raul.! I'm looking for platinum mega slim 140-180 but my bigger sail needs to open the boom on 176 even 178 in a very windy conditions.!I I'm 67kg what do you believe about the stiffness and durability if I use the boom on 176 or 178..???
ReplyHi Nikos.We offer as well the Mega Slim Boom in 150-200 and I think that's a better option for you!. I did last year a lot of testing with the Super Star 5.7 with a boom length of 176. I am 94kg and nothing broke but for sure the 150-200 Boom will offer you a better stiffness as the 140. So if you have the chance to choose one, then I would recommend you to take the 150-200.thanks Marco
ReplyHello Raul.! I'm looking for platinum mega slim 140-180 but my bigger sail needs to open the boom on 176 even 178 in a very windy conditions.!I I'm 67kg what do you believe about the stiffness and durability if I use the boom on 176 or 178..???
ReplyHi Nikos,Welcome to the thread.As mentioned above under BOOM BASICS - CAN I REALLY USE THE COMPLETE LENGTH RANGE OF THE BOOM? one of the advantages of carbon booms is that you can really use the full adjustment spectrum. This is due to the much increased stiffness compared to an alloy boom.Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
ReplyHi, I've got a Platinum 170-230 boom. My newly installed race outhaul kit has come undone. Specifically the strap for the boom cleat was too loose. Can you please advice on the correct size for the a strap for the Boom Clamp Cleat for my boom? Is it the 30-33mm CL105 or the 34-36mm CL111? And what is the exact external diameter of the boom? Many thanks, Pieter
ReplyHi Peter, which Outhaul kit are you using?I always use the recommend position and I put always two rubbers below the Clamp Cleatthanksmarco
ReplyHi Marco, I'm using the DUOTONE Outhaul Race Kit. It came with the 34-36mm CL111 boomclamp . However I think it is too big for the my Platinum 170-230 boom. Instead I think it should have come with the 30-33mm CL105 boomclamp. Thanks.
ReplyHi PieterThanks for your message! We are offering just the big one and the whole Duotone Racing Team is using it with the Rubber.Marco
ReplyHi! Looking for a boom head to replace my north platinum boom head. The boom is 2014 but I dont think you changed the diameter of the front, or did you? What I can say is that the diameter es more narrow where the head fits compared to the rest of the front. I would buy the ifront 2.0 if you think is retrocompatible. Thanks a lot
ReplyHi Gonzalo,The iFront 2.0 is still fully compatible with your boom. You can find the spare part(s) here: https://shop.duotonesports....Attention: since the front-end sits very very tight on the body you need to put the plastic parts into boiling water before attaching them to the body. Also using an electric tool helps a lot when installing the 2 bolts which connect the plastic parts.
ReplyHello, new oval shape is only in the platinum 190/250 or also in the aero version? thanks
ReplyHi Eduardo,Good question :-) For now we are doing it on the regular Platinum boom first but let's see. But with the lead times having become even more crazy since COVID-19 this can take "quite" a while...
ReplyHi, I have the super Heros 4,2 - 5,3 and the Suppersession 5,9. Should I use the 140-190 or better the 150-200 Platinum Boom?
ReplyHi Christoph,Seams you’re a regular Duotone. Thanks really appreciated. https://media4.giphy.com/me...Actually all your sails work with both boom lengths. So if you won’t get/need anything smaller than the 4.2 than I would go for the 150 length as this gives you the option to use it on an even bigger size. But if you might want/need to go smaller in the future you‘re better off with the 140 length.
ReplyHi I just bought a Platinum Boom ( 240 - 290 ) with OUTSIDE TAIL WITH ITAILRACE FITTING for my Formula Sail, would be great if you could provide a manual or video on how to set-up the outhaul kit. If you are new to these booms a manual would be really great to understand how to setup the OUTSIDE TAIL WITH ITAIL RACE FITTING. Thanks
ReplyHi Nils,The manual how to install an adjustable outhaul kit is in the bag when you buy the Outhaul Kit Race https://www.duotonesports.c...Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
ReplyHi Raoul, I got the race out haul kit today https://uploads.disquscdn.c... . Unfortunately there is no manual in the bag. Could you send me the. Install manual?nils.buer@arcor.de
ReplyHi Nils,Oh sh.. I forgot we left the manual off when we switched to the Duotone brand. Our chief tester Marco Lang is just doing a how to video. As soon as it's finished we'll let you know.Sorry for the inconvenience.
ReplyHi, read that "By popular request, the PLATINUM is now also available in a MEGA SLIM version", what is the thing with thinner diameter? And why is it not in the pro version? Regarding the pro version, what is the difference between these, except the T900 carbon and weigth ?
ReplyHi Niclas,Thanks for reaching out.1. What is the thing with thinner diameter?This is explained further up on the page (under BOOM BASICS): „In general the thinner the tube diameter the more comfortable it becomes to hold on to. This becomes very obvious once you go back from a thin diameter to a thicker one.“2. Difference between PLATINUM and PLATINUM AEROThe only difference between these booms is the weight - and the price obviously. 3. Why no Mega Slim on the PLATINUM AERO boom?We are working on this one but it will take a while since the regular PLATINUM Mega Slim booms came out so light already.
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