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DIE SUPER LEICHTE CARBON-PLATINUM IN AEROSPACE PREPREG TECHNOLOGY IST FÜR LEISTUNGSORIENTIERTE KÖNNER IN MEGA STEIFER MONOCOQUE-BAUWEISE KONSTRUIERT. LÄNGST HAT SICH HERUMGESPROCHEN, DASS SELBST PWA-TEAMFAHRER ANDERER RIGG-MARKEN DIE PLATINUM KAUFEN!
Um höchsten Ansprüchen zu genügen, sind drei völlig individuelle Konzepte am Start: › Wave >< Freestyle (140 + 150) › Wave >< Freeride (160) › Slalom-Race (170 + 190) WAVE SERIES: Die Biegelinie der kurzen Längen mit geringerem Öffnungswinkel vorne und breiterem Endstück ergeben die EVEN CURVE, die für eine gleichmäßigere Zugverteilung auf Mast- und Segelhand sorgt. Das verbessert das Handling beim Wellenabreiten und bei Freestyle Moves und lässt weniger ermüden. Auf vielfachen Wunsch gibt es jetzt die PLATINUM auch in einer MEGA SLIM Version als dünnste Carbon-Gabel weltweit mit nur 24.0 mm Holmdurchmesser (140-180 und 150-200)! NEU: der brandneue VTS TAIL Beschlag bietet in Kombination mit den 2022er Duotone Segeln erstmals eine klare optische Anzeige für die perfekte Schothornspannung (Patent angemeldet). HYBRID SERIES: Speziell für die Segelgrößen 4.5 bis 7.8 wurde die Wave/Freeride Version mit HYBRID.CURVE entwickelt, die sich in ihr im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes optimal entfalten können. Für optimalen Griffkomfort und sicheren Halt bei Duck Jibes ist das Endstück zur Hälfte mit Pro-Grip beschichtet (INSIDE GRIPPED TAIL). Niedriges Gewicht, iFRONT 2.0 Kopfstück und die Steifigkeit der Monocoque-Bauweise machen sie zur hochwertigsten Wave/Freeride Gabel, die momentan angeboten wird. Auch diese Gabel ist mit dem brandneuen VTS TAIL Beschlag ausgestattet. RACE SERIES: Die großen PLATINUM besitzen ausgereifte Race/Slalom-Biegekurven. Zusätzliches Highlight ist das iTAIL RACE FITTING, dessen Rollen aus Teflon-POM Kunststoff minimalste Reibungswerte aufweisen. Absolut einzigartig: Die Tampenschlaufe kann sogar bei Verwendung eines Outhaul-Trimmsystems geloopt werden (patentiert). - Die Länge 170–230 cm besitzt einen 28 mm Holmdurchmesser, ideal für kleine Slalomsegel sowie sämtliche Freerace Segelgrössen. Achtung: die 170er Länge ist eine Gabel mit Race-Fokus, d.h. Fokus auf maximale Steifigkeit trotz innenliegendem Endstück und "geringem Griffdurchmesser". Dadurch ist sie in ihrer Klasse die steifste Gabel auf dem Markt. Das erreichen wir durch eine Vorspannung zwischen Endstück und Body. Das hat jedoch leider einen negativen Effekt auf den Bedienungskomfort. Die Länge 160 (Freeride Fokus) hat den identischen Body wie die 170er jedoch ein Endstück mit geringerem Öffnungswinkel (= ca. 20% geringere Steifigkeit aber deutlich höherer Verstellkomfort). - Die brandneue PLATINUM 190 hat nun einen 28.5 mm Griffdurchmesser plus ein OVAL OUTSIDE TAIL erhalten das jetzt sogar für 40% mehr Steifigkeit sorgt, um auch bei maximaler Länge nichts an Härte einzubüßen.
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WISSENSGRUNDLAGEN GABELN
DUOTONE CARBON BOOM TECHNOLOGY - THINK DIFFERENT
Es gibt 2 Herausforderungen denen sich jede Windsurfing Gabel stellen muss:
Fakt #1: je länger die Gabel und je kleiner der Durchmesser, desto weicher wird sie
Fakt #2: je kleiner der Durchmesser (im Griffbereich), desto höher der Griffkomfort und desto geringer die Ermüdung (= längere Sessions auf dem Wasser und/oder mehr Power für das Rennen)
Unser Ziel war es, eine Gabel zu entwickeln, die maximalen Griffkomfort (durch einen möglichst dünnen Griffdurchmesser) mit maximaler Steifigkeit kombiniert - normalerweise zwei Dinge, die nicht miteinander kombiniert werden können, da sie gegeneinander arbeiten.
Mit der längsten Erfahrung der Branche in der Entwicklung von Windsurfing-Gabeln haben wir nach 3 Jahren unermüdlicher Entwicklungsarbeit eine innovative Lösung gefunden: SEGMENTED CROSS-SECTION TECHNOLOGY
Anstelle des üblichen runden Querschnitts verfügt die neue PLATINUM SLS Gabel über 3 verschiedene Querschnitte, die jeweils individuelle, auf den jeweiligen Abschnitt der Gabel zugeschnittene Aufgaben erfüllen::
VORDERER BEREICH
Der Frontbereich, insbesondere im Bereich neben dem Kopfstück, ist für ca. 30-40% der gesamten Gabelsteifigkeit verantwortlich. Die Kräfte wirken in mehrere Richtungen durch den seitlichen Zug der Hände und die nach unten gerichteten Kräfte des Körpergewichts. Deshalb hat der PLATINUM SLS hier einen massiven quadratischen Querschnitt, der die Gesamtsteifigkeit effektiv erhöht - in beide Richtungen, seitlich und nach unten.
HINTERER BEREICH
Der hintere Bereich hat einen ähnlichen Einfluss auf die Gesamtsteifigkeit der Gabel wie der vordere Bereich, wobei der Einfluss zunimmt, je weiter man die Gabel verlängert. Im Gegensatz zum vorderen Teil, wo die Kräfte in mehrere Richtungen wirken, treten hinten 90% der Kräfte seitlich auf, da die Hauptkraft vom seitlich ziehenden Segel ausgeht. Da die Kräfte nur in eine Richtung wirken, ist die effektivste Geometrie hier ein asymmetrischer ovaler Querschnitt, der horizontal ausgerichtet ist.
GRIFF-BEREICH
Durch die drastische Erhöhung der Steifigkeit im vorderen und hinteren Bereich konnten wir den Außendurchmesser im Griffbereich um 1,5 mm verringern. Das hört sich vielleicht nicht nach viel an, aber in der Händen ist der Unterschied im Griffkomfort und der Ermüdung wie Tag und Nacht. Um den Griffkomfort weiter zu erhöhen und die Ermüdung zu verringern, haben wir auf der Innenseite einen "Bumper" angebracht.
Das Ergebnis? Durch die revolutionäre SEGMENTED CROSS-SECTION TECHNOLOGY erzielen wir eine Carbon Gabel, die einen neuen Maßstab in Punkto Steifigkeit UND Griffkomfort setzt.
Noch steifer und leichter als die Vorgängerversion mit reduziertem Durchmesser im Griffbereich, gibt es bis heute kein andere Gabel mit einem ähnlichen Durchmesser-Steifigkeits-Gewichts-Verhältnis wie die neue PLATINUM SLS!
Carbon bietet die höchste Steifigkeit aller Verbundfasern. Dies gewährleistet ein unübertroffenes Verhältnis von Steifigkeit zu Gewicht.
Leider hat Carbon aber auch die geringste Abriebfestigkeit aller Verbundfasern. Heutzutage sind alle Kopfstücke drehbar, wodurch das darunter liegende Carbon ständig "abgeschliffen" wird. Im Laufe der Zeit vergrößert sich dadurch das Spiel zwischen dem Kopfstück und dem Carbon-Korpus, was schließlich zu einem Bruch führen kann. Die grösste Schwachstelle jeder Carbon-Gabel ist daher der Bereich unterhalb des Kopfstücks.
Unsere Ingenieure haben eine einzigartige Lösung gefunden, um dies zu vermeiden, indem sie ein sehr ausgeklügeltes Lagerdesign eingebaut haben. Mit unserer TRIANGLE BEARING CONSTRUCTION bleibt die Carbonstruktur auch nach jahrelangem Einsatz vor Abrieb geschützt..
Ein Gabelbaum mit drehbarem Kopfstück benötigt seitliche "Anschläge", um zu verhindern, dass sich das Kopfstück seitwärts bewegt. Normalerweise werden diese seitlichen "Anschläge" zusammen mit dem Rest des Gabel-Korpus in "einem Schuss" gefertigt. Auf diese Weise wird jede Carbongabel hergestellt. Das Problem bei diesem Verfahren ist, dass die Carbonfasern in einem 90°-Winkel "gefaltet" werden, was eine potentielle Schwach-/Bruchstelle darstellt. Unsere Erfahrung aus der Vergangenheit hat gezeigt, dass die meisten Brüche genau an dieser Stelle auftreten.
Seit 2019 werden alle PLATINUM Gabeln in unserer einzigartigen 2 PHASE BODY PRODUCTION gefertigt. Das bedeutet, dass die seitlichen "Anschläge" in einem 2. Prozess an den Rest des Korpus angeformt werden, NACHDEM der Korpus fertiggestellt ist. Seitdem gibt es keine Brüche mehr in diesem Bereich.
Der Nachteil dieses Verfahrens ist, dass die Außenseite der "Anschläge" nicht perfekt glatt aussieht. Dies ist jedoch rein ästhetischer Natur und hat keinerlei strukturelle Auswirkungen.
Gebohrte Löcher zerstören die Carbonstruktur und sind daher weniger haltbar - zumindest theoretisch. Unsere Erfahrung auf dem Wasser hat jedoch gezeigt, dass es keinen Unterschied zu geformten Aussparungen gibt. Um eine geformte Aussparung zu erzeugen, müssen die Carbonfasern in einem 90°-Winkel "gefaltet" werden, was für die Struktur genauso schlecht ist wie ein gebohrtes Loch (siehe oben unter 2 PHASE BODY CONSTRUCTION).
Andererseits sind gebohrte Löcher schneller und billiger in der Herstellung. Dadurch können wir das Geld dort ausgeben, wo es wirklich einen Unterschied für die Haltbarkeit macht (z.B. siehe oben unter TRIANGLE BEARING CONSTRUCTION).
GABELBAUM GRUNDLAGEN
NEW-SCHOOL/WAVE BIEGEKURVE
Bei New-School Gabeln ist die Kurve auf die ersten 25-30 cm konzentriert, während der Rest des Gestänges gerade ist. Das bedeutet, dass du deine vordere Hand selbst bei kleineren (Wave-)Segeln nicht verdrehen/vertwisten musst, da sie sich immer noch innerhalb des geraden Teils befindet.
CLASSIC/RACE BIEGEKURVE
Klassisch geformte Gabelbäume haben eine weiter nach hinten reichende Kurve bis ca. 45 cm. Bei kleineren (Wave-)Segeln bedeutet dies, dass die vordere Hand verdreht/vertwistet wird, was zu erhöhter Ermüdung oder sogar Schmerzen im Handgelenk führt.Je größer das Segel jedoch ist, desto weiter wandert der Druckpunkt (und damit die Hände) nach hinten, so dass die vordere Hand nicht mehr verdreht ist.
Größere Segel haben auch ein tieferes Profil. Klassisch geformte Gabelbäume mit ihrer weiter nach hinten reichenden Kurve führen dazu, dass die Gabel in der Mitte breiter wird und das Segel den Holm nicht berührt.
Daher sind klassisch geformte Gabelbäume immer noch die erste Wahl für größere Freeride-/Slalomsegel (6,5 und aufwärts).
Carbon Gabelbäume sind 3 bis 5 Mal teurer als Aluminium Gabeln. Die Gründe für diesen drastischen Preisunterschied sind die massiven Unterschiede bei den Rohstoffpreisen und die Tatsache, dass ein Carbon Gabeln zu 100 % individuell/handgefertigt ist.
Da Carbon ein viel steiferes Rohmaterial als Aluminium ist, bieten Carbon-Gabeln 4 wesentliche Vorteile:
Wenn eine Böe auf Ihr Segel trifft, musst du kräftig dichtholen, um nicht die Kontrolle zu verlieren. Ein weicherer Gabelbaum biegt sich stärker durch, je stärker du ziehst. Diese seitliche Biegung führt dazu, dass die Gabel kürzer wird. Wenn der Gabelbaum kürzer wird, wird das Segel voller und sackiger = Verlust der Kontrolle.
Je länger der Gabelbaum ist (180 und höher), desto deutlicher wird der Unterschied in der Steifigkeit.
Carbon-Gabeln können viel leichter gebaut werden (bis zu 20 %) und bieten dennoch mindestens 20 % mehr Steifigkeit.
Mit Carbon kann man dünnere Durchmesser erzielen (bis zu 4 mm) und trotzdem eine mindestens 20 % höhere Steifigkeit erreichen. Generell gilt: Je dünner der Rohrdurchmesser, desto angenehmer ist der Griffkomfort. Das wird sehr deutlich, wenn man von einem dünnen Durchmesser zu einem dickeren zurückgeht.
Carbon verbiegt sich nicht. Daher hält eine Carbon Gabel in der Regel 3-4 mal so lange wie ein Aluminium-Gestänge, da jede Überlastung (Crash, Schleudersturz, ...) irgendwann zu einer verbogenen Gabel führt.
Da Carbon nicht korrodiert, erfordert eine Carbon Gabel auch viel weniger Pflege als eine Alu Gabel. Einfach den Zustand der Tampen von Zeit zu Zeit kontrollieren und im schlimmsten Fall mal den Griff austauschen, dann hält ein Carbon Gabelbaum jahrelang.
Je länger und/oder je ausgefahrener der Gabelbaum ist, desto weicher wird er normalerweise. Das Problem ist, dass je größer das Segel (= längerer Gabelbaum) wird, desto entscheidender wird die Steifigkeit des Gabelbaums für die Segelleistung und den Windbereich (siehe oben CARBON VS. ALUMINIUM).
Da man beim Beschleunigen, Pumpen oder wenn eine Böe auf das Segel trifft, mit der hinteren Hand zieht, ist der hintere Teil des Gabelbaums der wichtigste Teil für die Gesamtsteifigkeit der Gabel. Alle Gabelbäume sind heutzutage entweder mit einem innen- oder außenliegendem Endstück ausgestattet.
AUSSENLIEGENDES ENDSTÜCK
Erfunden vom DUOTONE-Team im Jahr 2007. Hier gleiten die Endrohre ÜBER den Gabel-Korpus.
Der größere Endstück-Durchmesser/Querschnitt erhöht die Gesamtsteifigkeit der Gabel um mindestens 30%. Außerdem wird die Steifigkeit der Gabel im Gegensatz zu innenliegenden Enden nicht beeinträchtigt, je mehr die Gabel verlängert wird.
Dennoch hat das aussenliegende Endstück 2 Einschränkungen:
a. Zum Verstellen der Gabellänge müssen die Verriegelungssysteme auf dem Endstück verschoben werden. Das macht die Bedienung weniger komfortabel und langsamer.
b. Bei einem üblichen Verstellbereich von 50 cm erfordert ein außenliegendes Endstück eine Mindestlänge von 180 cm. Bei einer kürzeren Länge kann es passieren, dass du mit der hinteren Hand auf dem (dicken) Endstück landest.
INNENLIEGENDES ENDSTÜCK
Dies ist die klassische Variante, um die Länge des Gabelbaums anzupassen, seitdem es verstellbare Gabeln gibt. Hier verläuft das Endstück INNERHALB des Gabel-Korpus.
Die Vorteile sind:
> Funktioniert mit jeder Gabel-Länge , da das Endstück nicht mit der hinteren Hand in Konflikt gerät.
> Das Verriegelungssystem für die Längeneinstellung ist fest mit dem Gabel-Korpus verbunden. Auf diese Weise lässt sich die Länge der Gabel einfacher, schneller und bequemer einstellen.
Der einzige Nachteil ist die geringere Steifigkeit, die umso größer ist, je mehr man die Gabel verlängert. Normalerweise ist der Winkel des Endstücks parallel zum Winkel des Gabel-Korpus (hinten). Auf diese Weise ist die Reibung zwischen den beiden Teilen am geringsten und das Endstück gleitet sehr leicht in den Gabel-Korpus. Das macht es sehr bequem, die Länge einzustellen, manchmal bis zu einem Punkt, an dem man ein gewisses "Klick-Klack" hört, wenn man stark an der Gabel "wackelt".
Die einzige Möglichkeit, die Steifigkeit eines Gabelbaums mit innenliegenden Endstück zu erhöhen, besteht darin, eine gewisse "Vorspannung" in der Gabel zu erzeugen. Dazu wird der Winkel des Endstücks so vergrößert, dass es nicht mehr mit dem Gabel-Korpus übereinstimmt. Durch diese Vorspannung wird zwar die Steifigkeit der Gabel erhöht, aber gleichzeitig der Komfort und die Bedienbarkeit bei der Längenverstellung deutlich reduziert (daher nur bei PLATINUM 170).
Unter normalen Bedingungen ja. Aber bei besonders starker Beanspruchung muss man zwischen Carbon- und Aluminium-Gabelbäumen unterscheiden..
Das schlimmste Szenario für einen Carbon-Gabelbaum ist ein Bruch bei massiver Überlastung. Carbon Gabeln biegen sich jedoch nicht. Daher können Carbon Gabeln auch im voll ausgefahrenen Zustand ohne Einschränkungen verwendet werden.
Aluminium hingegen kann sowohl brechen als auch verbiegen. Daher kann ein schwerer Fahrer und/oder eine Überlastung (z.B. Schleudersturz oder die Landung superhoher Sprünge) dazu führen, dass sich eine Alu Gabel im voll ausgefahrenen Zustand verbiegt. Als Richtlinie für wirklich schweren Miss/Gebrauch solltest du die letzten 15-20 cm der Gabel dann nicht benutzen.
TIPS & TRICKS
Du sollest immer vermeiden das Sonnencreme auf den EVA-Griff kommt. Nicht nur, dass Sonnencreme besonders die helleren EVA-Farben verunreinigen kann. Außerdem wird der Grip sehr rutschig, so dass man fester zupacken muss, was sehr anstrengend ist. Das Wichtigste ist jedoch, dass der Grip für immer rutschig wird, sobald Sonnencreme auf das EVA gelangt.
Es gibt 2 einfache Lösungen, um zu vermeiden, dass Sonnencreme auf den EVA-Grip gelangt:
Warte nach dem Auftragen der Sonnencreme, bis sie vollständig in deine Haut eingezogen ist, was mindestens 10-15 Minuten dauert. Da wir alle so schnell wie möglich auf's Wasser wollen, ist das allerdings nicht sehr praktisch.
Befreien deine Hände von der Sonnencreme entweder mit Alkohol (ziemlich unpraktisch) oder indem du deine Hände mit Sand "wäschst".
Bitte auch bei Lagerung oder Transport immer darauf achten, dass das Verschlusssystem der Längenverstellung geschlossen ist. In der geöffneten Position steht das Schnappteil unter voller Spannung und kann daher nach einiger Zeit etwas von seiner Schnappfunktion einbüßen.
Sogar Edelstahl- und Aluminiumteile werden mit der Zeit durch Salzwasser angegriffen.
Daher sollten man nach dem Urlaub im Salzwasser das Endstück entfernen und es zusammen mit dem Rest der Gabel mit Süßwasser abspülen.
Für die Überwinterung bitte das Endstück vom Gabel-Korpus entfernen.
Bitte überprüfe regelmäßig den Zustand der Tampen (Kopf- und Endstück). Mit der Zeit kann die Seiloberfläche durch die Klemmung in der Metallklampe beschädigt werden. Wenn der weiße Kern zu sehen ist, ist es an der Zeit, den Tampen zu ersetzen.
Der EVA-Griff ist sehr komfortabel für die Hände, aber er mag keine scharfen Gegenstände. Rigge daher nicht auf Beton auf, sondern versuche, auf weichem Untergrund (z.B. Sand oder Gras) aufzuriggen.
Kleine Schnitte im EVA solltest du einfach "ignorieren".
Kleine Teile, die sich ablösen, können leicht mit Sekundenkleber repariert werden.
Falls der Grip ersetzt werden muss (weil er grossflächig abgelöst ist oder weil du es nicht ertragen kannst, dass er die Schönheit deiner Gabel zerstört:-), versuche nicht, dies selbst zu tun. Dies ist eine sehr heikle und zeitaufwändige Prozedur, die du lieber Profis überlassen solltest.
Du benötigst Ersatzteile? Klick hier
Im Allgemeinen verwenden die meisten Leute hier nicht genug Spannung, was dazu führt, dass die Gabel bei hoher Belastung und/oder kabbligen Bedingungen langsam nach unten rutscht. Bei der Konstruktion des Frontstück-Hebels haben wir darauf geachtet, dass der Mast nicht brechen kann, wenn man das Kopfstück anschnappt.
Wir verwenden hier absichtlich einen eher "billigen" Polyester-Tampen. Im Vergleich zu Dyneema/Spectra-Seilen hat Polyester eine gewisse Elastizität. Diese geringe Dehnung puffert Belastungsspitzen (z.B. bei massiven Stürzen oder der Landung von hohen Sprüngen) ab und verhindert so eine Überlastung und einen möglichen Bruch der Kunststoffteile.
Das VTS TAIL Fitting ist nicht mit älteren Endstücken kompatibel. Ja, es hat den gleichen Endstückdurchmesser wie das iTail Wave Fitting (das iTail Race benötigt einen anderen/größeren Durchmesser). Aber der VTS TAIL-Beschlag wird mit ZWEI Schrauben (statt einer) am Endstück befestigt - und diese Schrauben befinden sich in einer anderen Position. Daher ist es nicht kompatibel.
Da sich aber die Dimensionen des Endstücks nicht geändert haben, kannst du ein komplettes Endstück einschließlich des VTS TAIL Fittings kaufen, um es mit einer iTail Wave Gabel zu verwenden.
WE DO CARE
Nachhaltigkeit ist die wichtigste und drängendste Herausforderung der heutigen Menschheit, um den kommenden Generationen eine lebenswerte Mutter Erde zu sichern!
In den letzten 50 Jahren hat sich Windsurfen zu einem Super-High-Tech-Sport entwickelt. Aber seien wir ehrlich, ungeachtet dessen, was andere euch erzählen mögen - mit Ausnahme von Aluminium-Gabeln und -Verlängerungen - sind Windsurfing-Rigg-Produkte eine "Mischung aus Kunststoffen auf Benzinbasis". Und in den misten Fällen sind bis zu 100% dieser Kunststoffe nicht recycelte (d.h. "frisch produzierte") Kunststoffe.
Zumindest bis heute gibt es keine umweltfreundlichen Ersatzstoffe für die strukturellen Komponenten, die die Mindestanforderungen für die Konstruktion moderner Windsurfing-Produkte erfüllen. Oder warum, glaubst du, will niemand mehr mit Holzgabeln, Aluminiummasten oder dehnbaren Stoff-Segeln surfen?
Es gibt nur einen nachhaltigen Ausweg aus diesem Dilemma:
LANGLEBIGERE PRODUKTE KREIEREN (LANGLEBIGKEIT = NACHHALTIGKEIT)
Ein Hochleistungsprodukt, das länger hält und im besten Fall sogar zusätzlich auf dem Gebrauchtmarkt eingesetzt werden kann, ist die beste und einzige Möglichkeit, die Ressourcen unserer Erde zu schonen.
Natürlich haben leichte Komponenten einen massiven Einfluss auf die Leistung und das Handling deines Riggs. Deshalb steht geringes Gewicht immer auf unserer Briefing-Liste, wenn wir neue Produkte entwerfen und konstruieren. Und DUOTONE-Produkte gehören zu den leichtesten oder in vielen Fällen sind die leichtesten auf dem Markt.
Aber Haltbarkeit und Langlebigkeit standen und stehen für uns immer ganz oben auf der Prioritätenliste. Unsere branchenführenden Garantieverlängerungen zeugen von dieser Philosophie:
- 2 Jahre bedingungslose Garantie auf fast jedes Hardware-Produkt (Masten, Gabeln und Verlängerungen+Bases).
- 5 Jahre Garantie auf 80% unserer Segel.
Bei Segeln können wir nicht genug betonen, dass insbesondere die Reduzierung der Dicke des Monofilms und des XPly-Laminats einen radikalen Einfluss auf die Langlebigkeit/Nachhaltigkeit hat. Eine Reduzierung der Foliendicke um 50% reduziert die UV-Stabilität um 70%. Nur um Magazintester oder Kunden kurzfristig zu beeindrucken, verwenden einige Marken bis zu 70% dünnere Laminate / Folien als wir. Dies entspricht nicht unserem Verständnis von Nachhaltigkeit.
IMMER MEHR
Da wir uns jedoch der Bedeutung der Nachhaltigkeit voll bewusst sind, können wir hier nicht einfach aufhören.
>> Nur wir haben aufgehört, Plastik für die Verpackung unserer Segel zu verwenden. Das spart ca. 5 qm Folie und Schaumstoff pro Segel.
>> Nur unsere Aluminiumprodukte (Gabelbäume und Verlängerungen+Bases) werden in einer CO2-neutralen Produktionsstätte hergestellt.
>> Nur unsere Aluminiumprodukte (Gabeln und Verlängerungen+Basen) werden zu 100% aus europäischen Rohstoffen in Deutschland hergestellt, um die Transportwege (zum Produktionsstandort und danach zu unserem Zentrallager) möglichst kurz zu halten.
>> Nur unsere Segeltaschen werden zu 100% aus recyceltem Kunststoff hergestellt.
>> Nur wir kompensieren alle Kohlenstoffemissionen, die durch unsere Segel während der Herstellung und des Transports entstehen, indem wir ein Wasserkraft-Klimaschutzprojekt in Sri Lanka, dem Land, in dem unsere Segel produziert werden, unterstützen.
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I have a question :can the system (ITAIL RACE FITTING) be transferred to Boom 140-200 MEGA SLIM or Boom 140-200 or 160-220 cmmy daughter competes in windsurfing competitions / she is 11 years old / and she needs to mount OUTHAUL RACE, she needs pulleys at the end boom
AntwortenHi Krzysztof,Welcome to the thread.Unfortunately exchaging the tail fitting to a different style is not really possible. This is because the tail fittings have different diameters and different hole positions.
Antwortenhey team,in 2024 i decided for a whole new setup from duotone boom masts sails.i recieved my 2024 platinium boom the other day. please let me know is it commen that the part unbeneth the head is (non coated, non clear vanish or anything else) blanc carbon or a production failure? Never had such a blanc surface with other booms before.Thanks for your reply.
AntwortenHi Stefan,Unfortunately I don‘t fully get what you mean. Can you post a photo so that I get a better idea?
AntwortenHi team, a question about the VTS Tail...Is the VTS Tail neutral indicator pressure sensitive on the outhaul? Will it indicate 'neutral' accurately for pre-2022 Duotone/older North Sails?I only have one newer sail that has clew VTS rope guide, all my older sails are before clew VTS and wondering how I might be able to calibrate them.
AntwortenHi Leo,Welcome to the thread. Just let me know the model year, type and size of your older sails and I can give you the VTS Tail specs.
AntwortenHi, is there a date for when the 170-230 sls platinum boom going to become available?
AntwortenHi Axel,The first shipment of the new Platinum SLS booms has just arrived. Website will be updated until newest week.
AntwortenHi Raoul, that's fantastic. Can it be ordered next week from your website in Europe, and expect to have it by the end of the month?
AntwortenHi Axel,As soon as the new booms are online you can of course order them. I can just promise you it was worth the wait cause these new booms are really a massive step up. I really doubt there is any comparable boom out there.
AntwortenHi Axel,I have just realised that the 170 is already sold out - so so sorry. This is due to the fact that the pre-orders from our importers and dealers surpassed the quantities from the first shipment. The next shipment is scheduled to arrive mid August. Your name suggest that you come from Germany - right? Cause then you should check with Surfshop Keppler or Funsport. Those guys have received some 170 booms from the first delivery.
AntwortenI have a quiver of 2023 Idol sails from 4.0-5.2 as well as 2022 Super Heros from 3.4-5.7. I would like to make use of the VTS outhaul system and am thinking of one boom to fit all.I currently use Severne enigma, but find the tail end of the 140 boom very narrow for the Duotone sails. Duotone sls looks like it has a much wider tail so I am hoping it would fit all my sails from 3.4 up to 5.7.Would you recommend the regular sls 140-190?Alternatively I thought perhaps the mega slim 140-180 (or aero 3.0) and just not use it for the 5.7 as this could exceed max length with outhaul 176+/-4Any recommendations gratefully received :)
AntwortenHi Magnus,Actually it's still top secret but if you can just wait a little longer (until April) we will release a new version of the 140 length. This boom will feature a 60cm tail end and a complete new bend curve (same than the Silver Mega Slim - see here: https://www.duotonesports.c...We have developed this curve over the last 1,5 years so that it fits both a large and deep Super_Hero as well as a small and flat Idol. I can just tell you that much once you've sailed this new curve you can't go back :-)
AntwortenPerfect, thanks for the tip! I will wait until april :)
AntwortenHello Raoul, Is that the reason for the long wait on the booms? Eagerly waiting for a new 140 and was told "a few more months?". Exciting though.
AntwortenHi,I have a question about the 190-250 platinum boom.Is the wide tail-end from the previous north/duotone version also useable with the new 250 platinum boom?Best regards,Joeri
AntwortenHi Joeri,Sorry your question has slipped through.Actually since we have changed the Platinum 190 boom into an oval cross section in the back the "old"/round tail ends do not fit anymore.
AntwortenHi Raoul,What is the part number for the x-wide 230-260 tailend from the new oval 190 boom?Has the adjustable outhaul set remained the same for the round/oval boom?
AntwortenWhat means heavy rider?
AntwortenHi Richi,Welcome to the thread.As mentioned in the knowledge base on carbon booms you can use the full adjustment range. On an aluminum boom though we recommend not using the full range if you are heavy rider and/or heavy usage (e.g. high jumps or fully overpowered race-oriented sailing). A heavy rider we would call guys over 80kg.
AntwortenHi crew, is the new VTS Tail Fitting compatible with an EPX.Carbon 160-220 tail end?
AntwortenHi Leo,Thanks for double-checking. The EPX boom is a „standard“ OEM boom featuring a different diameter tail-end than the Platinum boom. Plus the rollers are integrated in the tail. Therefore unfortunately the VTS Tail won’t fit.
AntwortenHello, im thinking of buying a platinum boom for my freestyle sails, 4.4 4.8 and 5.1. Shall i buy the 140-180 slim or the 150-200 slim?
AntwortenHey fedonThe idol ltd 5.2 has a max boom length of 162, that’s why I would recommend you the 140-180.The 150 feels a bit stiff on the 4.4, that’s why the 140 should be the right choice.ThanksMarco
AntwortenHello the boom is amazing mega slim 140-180 but I found that the small rubber parts on the tail end missing after session. It is posible to order ? And glue it back cannot find them on spare parts catalogue.
AntwortenHi MarcinHappy to hear that you're stoked with your Platinum Mega Slim boom. Sorry to hear that the tail protector has ripped off. Unfortunately we don't offer this item as a spare part. Reason is that it's nearly impossible to properly connect it to the tail-end. In production process this done using Epoxy.
AntwortenHello Duotone Team,i have bought the Platinum Series SLS 140 megaslim "new", and i used this weekend for the first time. It's fantastic, but, as the previous model (the blue/white one), the Front-end slide down even if it's closed to the mast very tight (probably too much) about 10/15 cm lower than the starting closing point during use. I do not make any high jumps, just go and back andsurfing waves (no big wipe-out).I use with Goya mast&sails and i'm 79kg; i really like your product, really, but i hoped that with the new iFRONT 2.0 this issue was definitely solved!Other windsurfers i've talked to who use it with other brand masts have the same issue..How can i solve the issue?Moreover, after only 2 days of use, the tail rope is almost broken; back on the beach i was really surprised to be able to come back because the rope held for 0,5mm only. by a hair!If i can not use the Dyneema, which one i have to buy?Can you please tell me the strength kg characteristic for the 3.4mm rope required?Thank You in advance for your replay.CiaoAle Venice
AntwortenHey ale VeniceThanks for your feedback and happy that you like the platinum boom.Try to put more tension on the boom head with the rope, we tested the boom head with a proper rope tension and we didn’t had any issue.The shop where you bought the boom should exchange the tail rope or you either can order one in our sparepart shop.https://www.duotonesports.c...Let me know if you have any further questions.ThanksMarco
AntwortenHi Ale Venice,Here is the direct link to the VTS Tail rope: https://www.duotonesports.c...
AntwortenHello Duotone Team, i have bought the Platinum Series SLS 140 megaslim "new" and i used this weekend for the first time. As the previous model (the blue/white one) the Front-end slide down even if it's closed very tight (probably too much) about 10/15 cm lower than the starting closing point during use. I do not make any high jumps, just go and back and surfing waves (no big wipe-out).I use with Goya mast&sails and i'm 79kg; i really like your product, really, but i hoped that with the new iFRONT 2.0 this issue was definitely solved! Other windsurfers use it with other mast brand and the problem is the same.. it slide down.How can i solve the issue?Moreover, after 2 day of use, the tail rope is almost broken; back on the beach i was really surprised to be able to come back because the rope held only for 0,5mm.If i can not use the Dyneema, which one i have to buy?Can you please tell me the strength kg characteristic for the 3.4mm rope required?Thank You in advance for your replay.CiaoAlessandro
AntwortenIs the diameter of the Platinum 140 really the same as the Silver, I wonder?I love your booms hardware. But I one real issue the boom-mast clamp. This I break already 2 times. In my opinion it is too fragil. some other little issues:Also the ropes for the tail of the boom and the extension are to soft and wear down to quickly. The do not last more than some month.
AntwortenHi Jörg,Happy to hear that you like our hardware products - at least in general :-) We offer two different versions of the 140 boom, one with the „traditional“ 27.5mm diameter and one with a 24.0 „new school“ diameter. So it’s all your choice. Following to your small issues:1. We did a small running production change on the clam part a while ago beefing it up a little. Since that time breakages have gone down noticeably. But please note never to use a Dyneema rope here as its non-stretch behaviour puts too much load onto the front-end. 2. Quite the opposite counts for the Kurhaus rope. Here changing to a Dyneema rope will give you a nearly indestructible construction. That‘s also the reason why the Power.XT (where you have the extra wear and tear due the ratchet system) comes factory equipped with a Dyneema rope.Thanks again for your constructive approach.
AntwortenI am using this boom since 5 years, today it is broken on a very standard weather consition. That would be normal ? What should I buy next in order not to face the same in the future. I am using sometimes warp sometimes s-type. Thanks for your comments and advise…https://uploads.disquscdn.c...
AntwortenHi Pamir,Sorry to hear about your issue with your old boom.Straight forward if being honest I think no brand can promise you that their boom would never break. This also counts for our booms. Yes we offer an 2 Year Unconditional Warranty for the Platinum SLS booms which should give you „peace of mind“ for the first 2 years. But still I would not claim that our booms last „forever“. That’s simply not possible with the tremendous loads especially during slalom racing. Please also note that breakages very often occur during „very standard weather conditions“. In many cases the equipment might have gotten „pre-damaged“ by a heavy impact during another session before. And then a rather small impact might be enough for the product to finally snap.Please let me know in case you need any further assistance.
AntwortenHi Raoul , what rope with the black markings do you use for the platinum boom ?ThxFilip
AntwortenHi Filip,We have not added this items to our spare part shop yet. Hope to get this done within the next 2 weeks.But you can still order the item through your shop.Here are the details:Item name: DTW-Boom Spare VTS Tail Rope 3.4mm 2.0 (SS22-onw)Item number: 14230-8035
AntwortenHello! Are the VTS and iTail boom ends interchangeable? Meaning, can I swap out the VTS tail end on a smaller boom, and replace it with the iTail, so that an adjustable outhaul system can be set up? This is for using the smaller foil sails under 5m. Thanks!
AntwortenHi Haw,I think you mean to exchange the VTS tail fitting wit the iTail Race fitting - right?If so unfortunately the answer is no since both fittings come with a different diameter and different hole positions.
AntwortenHi,Would it be possible to get the color code of the purple colored back end of the 170-230 boom?I have some scratches that I would like to touch up.Best regards,Nick
AntwortenHi Raoul. My Ifront 2.0 rope is starting to wear and I'm keen to replace it. Keen to understand where/ how I can buy the replacement rope?I can only find find the rope sold as part of a bigger, much more expensive set. Thanks for letting me know.
AntwortenHi Pieter-Paul,Thanks for reaching out.Since we are using a very generic Polyester rope (for the reasons mentioned above under TIPS&TRICKS - EXCHANGE THE "CHEAP" IFRONT 2.0 ROPE) which you can buy at any shop we do not offer the "original" rope as spare part. As a special tip I would look out for a braided-through Polyester rope - means a rope WITHOUT core and mantle. Experience taught us that these braided-through ropes last longer while core and mantle tend to rub against each other which leads to a faster wear and tear.
AntwortenHello,I own a 190-250 platinum boom. It must be one of the first from the Duotone brand. Now I recently purchased the extra wide tailend that fits the body. With the wide tailend installed it is impossible to set the boom at a length that the body and tailend are at rest for storage. Is it ok to store the boom under tension?Best regards,Joeri
AntwortenHi iv had one of these booms for about six months and use it about 12 times not very happy the screws which hold the back cleat in have totally rusted looks shocking. I presume this is covered under warranty
AntwortenHi Stef,Welcome to the thread.Thanks for bringing up this issue. We prefer to use external tail fittings which offer a couple of advantages (see above under TECH FEATURES - EXTERNAL TAIL FITTINGS).Obviously these fittings needs to be screwed onto the carbon tail-end. We are using stainless steel screws+nuts for that. But even then unfortunately it’s impossible to completely avoid any kind of surface corrosion. As one example this can be caused by tiny metal partials getting onto the screw or nut during the mounting process. When Carbon and metal get in contact a so-called galvanic element happens. In combination with (salt) water this gets even „accelerated“. The good thing though since it’s „only“ happening at the surface it’s a pure aesthetic issue without any influence on the durability. But if you still feel uncomfortable you can of course exchange the screw and/or nut.
Antwortenhttps://uploads.disquscdn.c... https://uploads.disquscdn.c... Hi , I have 150-200 platinum boom probably 4-5 years old and on my last session plastic on tail broke. Can I replace it and where I can find that part.
AntwortenHi Ivan,Here is the spare part you are looking for:https://shop.duotonesports....
AntwortenHello,I have a 160 platinum boom that is missing some parts of the grip where the harness lines meet.Is there a manual or video available that shows how to replace the grip?I think it is a 2019 boom, it has the white/blue grip. Can I assume that also the grip of the newly colored booms fit?Kind regards,Joeri
AntwortenHi Joeri,Small cuts or peel offs can be repaired very quickly using super glue. We do not recommend to do a DIY replacement of the whole grip though - please see above under TIPS&TRICKS - „BEAUTY CARE“ - 4.And yes the color grips still fit with the older booms.
AntwortenHi Guest,Welcome to the thread.Thanks for bringing this interesting point up.When sailing you usually do not grap around the tube with your whole hand. Yes you have that impression holding on to a rather thick tube. In reality mainly just the fingers and the upper hand palm wrap around the tube (thus is where you get the callus spots after a while).Believe me once getting used to a smaller diameter there is no way back. Just like the opposite to a TV - once you had a bigger TV there is no way back either :-) And this comes from a quite tall and heavy guy with very long hands like myself.
AntwortenHi,Is the iFront compatible with other brand booms? Was size does the front end tubing need to be?Thanks
AntwortenHi Sam,It’s not just about the (front) tube diameter but also the distance side to side (defined by the bumpers left and right of the front-end.So for instance our front-end make has the same tube diameter than the NP but features a different distance side to side thus is not compatible. That‘s why I doubt that it is compatible with any other brand.
AntwortenHi Again RaoulWondering if you can help again please.I need to replace the I tail cleat from my wave boom. Simple enough with just one bolt and nut to undo. However I’ve been trying to find a socket thin enough to put over the nut and failed as the wall thickness of the socket must be almost paper thin to be able to go over the nut and get into the plastic resets. Sadly the nut is in a round recess and not one that would hold it securely . Can you confirm what the factory use to tighten the nut please so I can replace a broken ITAIL on my platinum boom please or even if can purchase in the duotone shop?ThanksNick
AntwortenHi Nick,Welcome to this thread as well :-) And thanks for bringing this up cause replacing the iTail Wave fitting isn’t a no-brainer by any means.There are 2 option here:1. our factory uses custom milled down sockets which are then thin enough to fit In-between the nut and the plastic. Not very practical as a diy solution though. 2. get yourself 2 small/thin screw drivers and fix the nut this way. This will require the help of a second person but this way you get the job done.Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
AntwortenHi RaoulThanks for your confirmation of my thoughts. I’ll go the wedging screw driver solution and see how I get on. First though I will have to drill out the rusted nut/bolt connection then the new one will be ok with the wedging solution.Have a good one
AntwortenHi. Could I use Mega Slim 140-180 with Super Hero 5.7 (176 boom)?Thanks
AntwortenHi Davide,Like I had replied to you in the Super_Star SLS thread we always show the MAX rigging dimensions in our sail specs. We simply want to avoid that someone ends up with a too short boom and/or mast extension.So yes you can use the Mega.Slim 140-180 boom on the Super_Hero 5.7. For more details please see under BOOM BASICS - CAN I REALLY USE THE COMPLETE LENGTH RANGE OF THE BOOM? (further up on this page).
AntwortenHi there,> Want to use an outhaulsystem on my New boom.> Does the Ital racefitting fit on the 160-220 SLS Platinum boom 2022?> Regards, Peter
AntwortenHi Peter,Thanks for reaching out and bringing this up. The iTail Wave features a different (smaller) diameter than the iTail Race plus the screws (connecting the fitting to the tail) are at a different location (which the extra rollers of the iTail Race design require). Therefore unfortunately both fittings are not interchangeable.So when coming up with a new length we always need to decide which fitting to use. And since the 160-220 length is a „common wave-freemove“ size we have decided to go for the iTail Wave here.
AntwortenHi Raoul,I have recently used my 2021 mega slim 150-200 boom with my 2022 E Pace 6.6. The mega slim 150-200 wobbled a little bit at the tail section. Should I better use a platinum SLS 160-220 boom with it? Thanks a lot in advance,
AntwortenHi Selcuk,The E_Pace features a boom length of 194cm which means it’s pretty close to the max setting. Plus the E_Pace is a performance-oriented nocam sail where you sail fully sheeted in. Therefore I would not recon such a small diameter for such a big sail size (in relation to the boom length). Instead I would suggest going either for the 150-200 with the 27.5mm diameter or even better for the 160-220 boom.
AntwortenHeyo, got a used but still very new platinum sls megaslim 150-200 from 2022. Is it normal with the inside gripped tail-end that the tail has quite a lot of play in the boom body? Even making a clacking sound when shaking the boom without a sail?
AntwortenHi Philip,Thanks for brining this up.We all know that the mega slim diameter makes a massive difference to the gripping comfort on a wave boom. And the gripped tail-end is just so nice to hold on to during all ducking moves. The downside though is that the smaller the diameter gets the more "sensitive" the boom becomes to the tolerances between the tubes - which you need to be able to adjust the length. In other words the tolerances between the tubes are exactly the same as on the "regular" 140 boom with 28mm diameter. But be assured this doesn't have an influence on the durability. At least our team riders have not experienced any increased breakages compared to the regular 140 boom.
AntwortenHi Raoul, thanks for the quick reply. Does the 140-180 and the 150-200 have the same tail. In the spare parts section for the 2022 platinum sls there is no difference between the two when you want to order a replacement tail...
AntwortenHi Philip,The tail-end of both Mega Slom booms has the same diameter. The only difference is the length as the 140 comes with a 40cm adjustment only whereas the 150 features a 50cm adjustment. To make it easier for our logistics we have decided to just offer the 50cm tail-end as a spare part.
Antwortenhello duotone/ Raoul.I have now sailed 35 sessions with the platinum 160-220 i.c.w the F-pace cam.now i have a question about the VTS outhaul.When I dry-rig the sail, I (instinctively) put a lot of outhaul, because as soon as the sail comes into the water, the outhaul tension is completely gone.then I adjust the outhaul again according to the VTS.but after 30 minutes of sailing the sail is completely dry again, which also increases the outhaul tension in my opinion.how do I find a balance here?Thank you in advance.
AntwortenHi Moritz,Thanks for bringing this up.To answer your question the (theoretical) stretch difference between a dry and a wet sail and (outhaul + downhaul) rope is negligible.
AntwortenHi Duotone Team,the Platinum boom is very good and stiff, but the I-front always slides down. One time I snapped it too hard and even broke a mast. What can I do? I think the rubber is too hard.Thanks for advice, Werner
AntwortenHi Werner,Again sorry for the very delayed response but apparently I don’t receive notifications from comments on this product thread anymore. I‘ll need to check with our service provider on that.As for the sliding down could you please proved me with some more details:- Are you using the boom on a RDM or SDM mast?- Which brand mast is it?- Which sail are you using?- What’s your weight?This way I have a better idea what’s the issue and how to solve it.
AntwortenDear Raoul,I use SDM 100%, Point 7 mast and sail AC1. My weigt is 83 kg. Once I gave to much tension to the bom lever in order to avoid the sliding down and the mast broke.Thanks again for help,Werner
AntwortenHi Werner,Thanks for bringing this up cause as expected we are talking about slalom fin racing equipment here. Slalom fin racing puts by far the most load onto the boom not just sideways but also downwards. This is especially apparent with the mega stiff carbon booms nowadays. Means there is zero „give“ in the tubes to absorb some of the forces but they get fully „transferred“ onto the front-end.We are having this discussion among our race team guys since quite some time. Depending on the style of sailing some have more of an issue with the boom slightly moving down and some less (also depending on the conditions mega choppy vs. smooth waters). Over the years we have tried all kind of things but unfortunately without a breakthrough. We have also tried all kind of competitor booms (we could get our hands on) and had to learn that they all „share“ the same issue, some a tiny bit less some a bit more. We have an idea which looks promising but still need to verify this and see how we can get it into serial production as (most important) it needs to be retrofit-able. So how to solve this for the moment?- On our masts (with Polyamide coating) some of our team riders sand the surface which seams to solve the issue. But I would definitely not recommend doing so on a mast without Polyamide coating.- On masts without Polyamide coating you could ask a board repair shop to add a 20cm long glass layer and use peelply which leads to a „rough“ the surface. - If you are hesitant against „modifying“ your mast (fully understandable) you can use a bit of natural rubber material (from a bike tire) and put it around the back hinge part of the front-end. Unfortunately this will make it nearly impossible to change the boom height when the sail is under tension. That’s why it’s not an option for the production boom.That all sounds a bit „handyman’s style“ but for the moment these are the best options. And as usual on our product threads we prefer to give you the best possible and honest assistance rather than just „marketing blabla“. And to put this into perspective I weigh 90kg and would call myself an advanced freeracer (Warp or S_Pace). And I have zero issues with the boom sliding down. Means we hear about this issue „only“ from „real“ racers. And this is from over 10 years of experience with the iFront 2.0 - which is unchanged since day one by the way. And last thing of course the iFront 1 had the same issue - in the hands of „real“ racers.
AntwortenDear Raoul,thank you for this detailed and honest statement. I also consider to replace the boom head (maybe by Maui Sails). Which diameter has the tube around the front bow?
AntwortenHi Werner,The Maui Sails is a very good front-end indeed. It was one of the front-ends we had a very close look at when developing the iFront 2.0. But unfortunately our experience is that this front-end slides down even more/faster than ours.But nevertheless this front-end would fit with our boom front-tube diameter.
AntwortenHello! My quiver; 4.5 & 5.3 supersession and 6.2 & 7.8 E-pace. Big steps, I know, but it works :) I am looking for a new carbon bom and it would be nice to use one boom for thewhole range. What do you say about the 160-220 Hybrid Platinum SLS with vts? Today I have a Chinook alu 150-200 and a Maui sails carbon 170-230. 5.3-7.8 is frequently in use. 4.5 only one or maybe a couple of times a year.
AntwortenHi Gustav,Sorry for the very delayed response but apparently I don’t receive notifications from comments on this product thread anymore. I‘ll need to check with our service provider on that.Following to your question:Your S_Pace 7.8 has a max. boom length of 219/220cm (depending on the model year). So rigged for high end stability it will just fit into the 160-220 boom. As stated above under BOOM BASICS on carbon booms you can use the full range of the extension. But please be aware that (even carbon) booms become softer when fully extended.Also the curve/width of the 160-220 boom is a bit narrow for the 7.8 - means a bigger portion of the boom will be touching the sail especially when rigged very (power)full.But as you stated you are willing to accept a compromise for the sake of just having one boom (to carry around).On the other side of your range the Super Session 4.5 has a max. boom length of 157cm (maximum outhaul tension when you use the boom at the upper end of the cutout). Means if rigged powerful and put in the mid to lower cutout position you might end up at around 152cm. That is indeed too short for a 160 boom as with 8cm of a „gap“ the clew would just „flap around“.As much as I would love to sell you into our boom to replace your Chinook and Maui Sails booms I would say that’s bit too much of a compromise.But of course in the end it’s your decision how much of a compromise you wanna make.
AntwortenNo problem Raoul! But I dont use S_Pace, my 7.8 is a E_pace with 212 max. boom length. Will it change the possibility of the 160-220 on 7.8?I'm aware of the problem with 4.5!
AntwortenHi Gustav,Ups sorry my mistake. Of course with the E_Pace 7.8 the 160-220 boom would work quite nicely. And since the E_Pace has a flatter profile than the S_Pace the boom width should also fit quite well.
AntwortenHey Raoul..!!! I wanted to ask you, my weight is less than 70kg and my bigger sail is an E-pace 6.6 so please let me know what do you suggest for a boom an EPX 150-210 or a Platinum mega slim 150-200, actually I'm in love with mega slim..!!!
AntwortenHi Nicholas,Well that really depends on how much you are able and/or willing to spend.The EPX.Carbon is a very good and reliable OEM boom made by Aeron. Approx. 80% of all brands on the market offer the same boom. The only difference is the brand label, the color of the plastic parts and the artwork of the grip. So technically there is zero difference between these booms.The Platinum SLS boom on the other hand offers some unique features and functions (for details please see above on this page). They are unique to Duotone cause we have developed and patented them. But development and moulds cost money which makes this boom quite a bit more expensive. But the good thing is that both booms are featuring nearly the same mega slim diameter :-)
AntwortenSo do you think that the mega slim 150 - 200 could be fits good enough with my bigger sail E-pace 6.6..???
AntwortenHi Nicholas,Ok now I got your question.All 140/150 (on the market) feature a wave bend curve which unfortunately is too narrow for a sail like your E_Pace 6.6. A too narrow boom results in the sail touching the boom over a larger area. Now you can imagine this is like "cutting the sail profile in half" in the boom area which is super bad for the sails performance.Sorry for the negative reply but at Duotone we always prefer an honest assistance over a fast sales success (by just telling you it's gonna be wonderful).
AntwortenHi! Is there any plans to publish the VTS TAIL settings for pre-2022 Duotone sails? I have Duotone 2021 E-type. Planning to get a carbon boom and using the VTS Tail for this sails would be awesome.
AntwortenHi Roger,The VTS TAIL recommendations for the E_Pace are Min. +1 to Max. +4.Hope this helps.
AntwortenHi,Would the 150-200 platinum boom be ok for 6.2 super star or will it be to close the Limit.Many Thanks Giles
AntwortenHi Giles,Welcome to the thread. We have covered this question above under BOOM BASICS - CAN I REALLY USE THE COMPLETE LENGTH RANGE OF THE BOOM?Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
AntwortenHi,I just checked the duotone website today. And I see that duotone has a new AERO 3.0 boom. But in the specification of the boom I see that the diameter is 27.5mm. Does the new duotone AERO 3.0 not come in mega slim 24mm? Is the SLS Platinum 140-180 only in mega slim 24 mm? Cause if I’m correct I think the SLS Platinum mega slim boom weighs 1.90 and the new Duotone AERO 3.0 weighs 1.95. I thought the AERO 3.0 should weigh less then the SLS PLATINUM MEGA SLIM? Or is the information on the Duotone website incorrect? I’m a bit confused 🤔Hope to hear from you soon.With kind regards,Royzinho
AntwortenHi Royzinho,Thank you so much for reaching out.Indeed I had forgotten to update the tech specs - I have just updated them now. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the hint.
AntwortenHi I have a question about the new mega slim duotone booms. I see that they come in 2 sizes 140-180 and 150-200. Which Boom do you recommend when you have an Duotone Idol 4.4 & 4.8 the megaslim platinum 140-180 or the megaslim 150-200 boom? I'm gonna buy the mega slim boom but can't find anywhere which size would be recommended for the Idol 4.4 & 4.8? And when can we expect the new Platinum Aero Boom? Anytime soon? I can't wait to buy it.Thanks
AntwortenHi Royzinho,Thanks for reaching out.1. Platinum 140 vs. 150 boom:For your Idol 4.4 and 4.8 you can use both booms. I would depend the decision on whether you tend to add a bigger or smaller sail size to your quiver in the future. If you might add something bigger than your 4.8 you might go for the 150 length. If the 4.8 will remain your biggest size you'll be perfectly fine with the 140 length, simply because it's a tiny bit lighter.2. Platinum Aero 140 Megaslim:First (very limited) quantities will be available when we launch the new hardware range in November.
AntwortenHi Raoul Joa,Thank you for your quick response. I'm on vacation on the beautiful island of Bonaire. And Two days ago I got to Try my new Duotone Idol 2022 4.8 with my mast 400 Aero 3.0 and my duotone platinum mega slim 140-180 Boom and it is just the best sail I have ever had. I am super satisfied with my new equipment (it is super light). Duotone in my opinion has the best windsurf sails. The freestyle moves are much easier for me with my new gear. Keep up the good work!
AntwortenQuick question about the mega slim duotone booms. Which Boom do you recommend if you have an Idol 4.4 & 4.8 the megaslim platinum 140-180 or the 150-200 boom? And when can we expect the new Platinum Aero Boom? Anytime soon? I can't wait to buy it.
AntwortenHi,I was wondering if I can put an itail race fitting on a silver boom that has an itail wave fitting. Are the fittings interchangeable across different booms?Thank
AntwortenI am very fond of my 170 Platinum for my slalom sails. I consider buying a 150 platinum for my Freestyle / Wave sails. I have two questions;1) Is the 150 Platinum stiffer than the 150 Mega Slim, considering its diameter?2) Can both (the 150 platinum and 150 mega slim) be used on SDM masts as well? (I already have the SDM and RDM adapter with my 170 platinum).Thanx!
AntwortenHi Kasper,Welcome to the thread. Following to your questions:1. Yes the regular Platinum 150 boom is stiffer than the 150 Mega Slim. A diameter difference between 27.5 and 24.5 mm you simply can't completely compensate through wall thickness. But for Wave-Freestyle sails the Mega Slim is more than stiff enough. At least it's so stiff that none of our international wave riders are using the regular 150 boom anymore - the difference in gripping comfort is so huge that once you've tried the Mega Slime you cannot go back. 2. Due to the difference in stiffness I wouldn't recommend the Mega Slim for SDM Freeride/race sails. But honestly also the regular 150 boom is not really suited for such sails as it's too narrow. If you wanna have a boom for Wave and Freeride usage you should have a closer look at the 160 length which is wide enough for Freeride sails as well.
AntwortenThanks Raoul, I plan to use it with the NS ICE and NS Duke. I use these sails with NS Gold SDM masts. If I understand it correctly, the Mega Slim fits these masts with a SDM adapter.
AntwortenHi Kasper,Even with the included RDM friction pad you can "force" the front-end onto a SDM mast. But obviously it's much more comfortable in combination with the SDM friction pad. But please note the Mega Slim comes with the RDM friction pad only means you'll need to purchase the SDM friction pad separately.
AntwortenHi, just bought the 160 cm Platinum boom as the 170 was too long a wait ;-). Since I'm a lightweigt and mostly foiling, I'll be using the boom for sailsizes between 4.5 and 7.8 only. On my larger sails, I can imagine that the tail-end of the 170 is a better match, especially if I'm planning to use the outhaul kit. My question is, is it possible to use the 170 tail-end on the 160 boom? Thx
AntwortenHi Joes,Thanks for bringing this up.Since the 160 and the 170 booms share the same body (apart from a 10cm difference in length) the tail-ends are also interchangeable. But be aware that with the 170 tail-end changing the length becomes MUCH harder as the tail-end has a much bigger opening angle (which is the secret for the MUCH increased stiffness of the 170 boom). Details you can find above under DETAILS.
AntwortenHi Raoul, thx for replying. What would be an alternative way to use the outhaul kit on the Platinum 160 boom with ITail wave end? I read it is nog possible to retrofit just the iTail Race (BOOM SPARES Art #: 14900-8029) part. Happy to hear. Cheers
AntwortenHi, for 160 cm 13 years girl who is doing slalom, we would like to buy a 170 cm Platinium boom. At the same time we have seen a promotion for Aero 2.0 190 boom which comes to the same price level. As 170 has oval shape at the front and has a smaller diameter it looks more suitable for her. Aero has 30 mm diameter and round shape at the front. Both has an acceptable weight. All 2021. Do you think she will be comfortable also with Aero 2.0?. ThanksAnother question is; will "Outhaul Kit Race" fit both booms because of boom diameter.
AntwortenHi Gönen,Thanks for reaching out.Let me guess your daughter is racing in Alacati. It’s a really really unique spot with a huge (male AND female) racing scene…Concerning the Platinum boom I would definitely go for the 170 length. Cause from our experience (especially) for girls the most important factor is to have the smallest possible diameter. That’s why all our international female riders try to use the 170 length on all possible sail sizes. Yes you might be able to get a good deal on the Aero 190 (cause we are about to update this boom to a smaller diameter). But it’s a huge difference between 30 and 28mm grip diameter. 2 things to consider though:1. The 170 boom is round and not oval (same as the „old“ 190). Only the new 190 is „ovalized“ on the inside (in the gripping area) - details you can find above on this page.2. Despite the small diameter the 170 is maybe the stiffest boom of its kind (second most important factor for female racers and most important factor for male racers). To achieve this enormous stiffness (despite featuring an inside tail-end) there is a certain pretension in the boom. But this pretension makes it quite a bit harder to change the boom length (details you can also find above). Please let me know in case you need any further assistance.
AntwortenHi Raoul,Good guess for Alacati and thank you for detailed information which helps a lot. We will try to buy 170 if any exists at stock. We are speaking with Jimmy.Do you think it worths to wait for 2022 model? Will there be any improvements for 170? Thanks
AntwortenHi Gönen,Hehe got you :-) We have a big optical update for 2022. But technically the 170 boom will remain unchanged.
AntwortenHi Raoul, I’ve got a Platinum 170-230 boom. Would this boom work with a Warp 7.7. 2019 or 2020? Thanks.
AntwortenHi Pieter-Paul,Both Warp 7.7 (2019 and 2020) feature a max boom length of 221. Therefore the Platinum 170-230 boom can be used for both sails. Actually all our female team riders prefer the 170 boom on the 7.7 because of the smaller diameter. All our male World Cup riders though prefer the 190 length due to its higher stiffness.
AntwortenHi Raoul,I am considering buying a Platinum boom with iTAIL RACE FITTING. I am wondering if it can be used with a sail including an outhaul double pulley, as the iTAIL does not include a center pulley?Thanks!Janne
AntwortenHey Raoul,I would like to buy a slim 140 Platinum version but I am curious if you know already anything about longevity when compared to the normal version.Is the slim version more fragile than the normal version? Which one would last longer in mostly wave sailing conditions?Thanks
AntwortenHi Vince,Well our international team riders (Victor, Marc, Adam and Arthur) might be the ones who have put the most hours onto the Mega Slim booms as no one is using the regular version anymore. Since the 2 years they have been using the Mega Slim all of them together have broken 2 booms so far - which is a very strong sign considering how many hours and how much (ab)use they put onto the stuff. The second „source“ of longevity is our Duotone Pro Center on Tenerife which uses Platinum booms only. Also here no major upsets in the 2 years since the introduction. Apart from replacing the boom grip which is usual in center usage.So all in all it’s looking quite promising I would say.
AntwortenHi Raoul,perfect, thanks for the insights!Vince
AntwortenHey Guys,Looking for a new boom a size or two up from my 150 wave, considering 160 or 170 Platinum but not clear on the body profile.Your website states body is THE SAME with different tail pc yet the image/sketch clearly shows the 160 being a hybrid bend with the 170 being a traditional race bend, need confirmation pleaseThanks
AntwortenHi Bruce,Thanks for double-checking.I can confirm the boom bodies of the 160 and 170 lengths are identical. The only difference is the length of the body and the design of the tail-end (different opening angles plus different tail-fittings).Attention: as mentioned in the Details text above the 170 is very difficult to adjust (due to the bigger tail opening angle) but therefore is approx. 20% stiffer than the 160.
AntwortenThanks Raoulfor a 6.2 no cam and 7.0 no cam FREERACE or 3 cam race is it worth the occasional difficulty to adjust in order to have the stiffer boom?Thanks again
AntwortenHi RaulIs there an SDM to RDM adapter for the platinum 190-250 race boom please?Can I use the same adapter that came with the platinum hybrid?
AntwortenHi Roddy,All our booms come equipped with the same iFront 2.0. Therefore the RDM adapter which came with your Platinum 160-200 also fits the 190 length.
AntwortenHello Raul.! I'm looking for platinum mega slim 140-180 but my bigger sail needs to open the boom on 176 even 178 in a very windy conditions.!I I'm 67kg what do you believe about the stiffness and durability if I use the boom on 176 or 178..???
AntwortenHi Nikos.We offer as well the Mega Slim Boom in 150-200 and I think that's a better option for you!. I did last year a lot of testing with the Super Star 5.7 with a boom length of 176. I am 94kg and nothing broke but for sure the 150-200 Boom will offer you a better stiffness as the 140. So if you have the chance to choose one, then I would recommend you to take the 150-200.thanks Marco
AntwortenHello Raul.! I'm looking for platinum mega slim 140-180 but my bigger sail needs to open the boom on 176 even 178 in a very windy conditions.!I I'm 67kg what do you believe about the stiffness and durability if I use the boom on 176 or 178..???
AntwortenHi Nikos,Welcome to the thread.As mentioned above under BOOM BASICS - CAN I REALLY USE THE COMPLETE LENGTH RANGE OF THE BOOM? one of the advantages of carbon booms is that you can really use the full adjustment spectrum. This is due to the much increased stiffness compared to an alloy boom.Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
AntwortenHi, I've got a Platinum 170-230 boom. My newly installed race outhaul kit has come undone. Specifically the strap for the boom cleat was too loose. Can you please advice on the correct size for the a strap for the Boom Clamp Cleat for my boom? Is it the 30-33mm CL105 or the 34-36mm CL111? And what is the exact external diameter of the boom? Many thanks, Pieter
AntwortenHi Peter, which Outhaul kit are you using?I always use the recommend position and I put always two rubbers below the Clamp Cleatthanksmarco
AntwortenHi Marco, I'm using the DUOTONE Outhaul Race Kit. It came with the 34-36mm CL111 boomclamp . However I think it is too big for the my Platinum 170-230 boom. Instead I think it should have come with the 30-33mm CL105 boomclamp. Thanks.
AntwortenHi PieterThanks for your message! We are offering just the big one and the whole Duotone Racing Team is using it with the Rubber.Marco
AntwortenHi! Looking for a boom head to replace my north platinum boom head. The boom is 2014 but I dont think you changed the diameter of the front, or did you? What I can say is that the diameter es more narrow where the head fits compared to the rest of the front. I would buy the ifront 2.0 if you think is retrocompatible. Thanks a lot
AntwortenHi Gonzalo,The iFront 2.0 is still fully compatible with your boom. You can find the spare part(s) here: https://shop.duotonesports....Attention: since the front-end sits very very tight on the body you need to put the plastic parts into boiling water before attaching them to the body. Also using an electric tool helps a lot when installing the 2 bolts which connect the plastic parts.
AntwortenHello, new oval shape is only in the platinum 190/250 or also in the aero version? thanks
AntwortenHi Eduardo,Good question :-) For now we are doing it on the regular Platinum boom first but let's see. But with the lead times having become even more crazy since COVID-19 this can take "quite" a while...
AntwortenHi, I have the super Heros 4,2 - 5,3 and the Suppersession 5,9. Should I use the 140-190 or better the 150-200 Platinum Boom?
AntwortenHi Christoph,Seams you’re a regular Duotone. Thanks really appreciated. https://media4.giphy.com/me...Actually all your sails work with both boom lengths. So if you won’t get/need anything smaller than the 4.2 than I would go for the 150 length as this gives you the option to use it on an even bigger size. But if you might want/need to go smaller in the future you‘re better off with the 140 length.
AntwortenHi I just bought a Platinum Boom ( 240 - 290 ) with OUTSIDE TAIL WITH ITAILRACE FITTING for my Formula Sail, would be great if you could provide a manual or video on how to set-up the outhaul kit. If you are new to these booms a manual would be really great to understand how to setup the OUTSIDE TAIL WITH ITAIL RACE FITTING. Thanks
AntwortenHi Nils,The manual how to install an adjustable outhaul kit is in the bag when you buy the Outhaul Kit Race https://www.duotonesports.c...Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
AntwortenHi Raoul, I got the race out haul kit today https://uploads.disquscdn.c... . Unfortunately there is no manual in the bag. Could you send me the. Install manual?nils.buer@arcor.de
AntwortenHi Nils,Oh sh.. I forgot we left the manual off when we switched to the Duotone brand. Our chief tester Marco Lang is just doing a how to video. As soon as it's finished we'll let you know.Sorry for the inconvenience.
AntwortenHi, read that "By popular request, the PLATINUM is now also available in a MEGA SLIM version", what is the thing with thinner diameter? And why is it not in the pro version? Regarding the pro version, what is the difference between these, except the T900 carbon and weigth ?
AntwortenHi Niclas,Thanks for reaching out.1. What is the thing with thinner diameter?This is explained further up on the page (under BOOM BASICS): „In general the thinner the tube diameter the more comfortable it becomes to hold on to. This becomes very obvious once you go back from a thin diameter to a thicker one.“2. Difference between PLATINUM and PLATINUM AEROThe only difference between these booms is the weight - and the price obviously. 3. Why no Mega Slim on the PLATINUM AERO boom?We are working on this one but it will take a while since the regular PLATINUM Mega Slim booms came out so light already.
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